In Salvatore Lupo's The History of the Mafia he kicks off criticising other historians who devote too much effort digging through etymological records of the term and who manage to find 'origins' as far back as say the 13th century. Lupo declares it is the revolutions during the 19th century that are of most importance when talking about mafia. He observes that the eastern part of the island of Sicily did not develop the mafia, it is mainly on the western side of the island that the mafia really took off.
The abolition of the feudal system came with the concept of camorra - a sort of proto-mafia. This is prior to the unification of Italy. During this dismantling of the ancien regimes there began a 'democratization of violence'. He doesn't attribute this to property law, as it seems to be exclusively western-Sicily that had the problems of mafia.
A number of reforms were carried out under the Bourbons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bourbon and so the Napoleonic period began in Sicily. An strange dynamic developed between thieves/bandits, the new police forces and the general citizens, 'the companies at arms' seems to have emerged with a prior understanding and rapport with thieves, whereby thefts would involve a negotiation process where some goods were returned, but thieves kept some of the loot and 'captains' would be awarded a 'prize' for arbitration.
Lupo makes the point that during these turbulent and violent times, there was a shifting of the wealth in the society. It didn't matter who took what side, republican, anti-Bourbon, it was those who were most effective and loyal to the liberal aristocracy that became the most respected mafiosi.
The protection of property was secured through patronage of thieves, which started off a form of clientelism. This was mainly to protect livestock, rather than land.
There is a three level system:
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[*]The ones who committed the crimes
[*]The ones who negotiate
[*]The organisers who stayed on their own lands, receiving animals on their lands and deciding who deserves to be killed.
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Rather than viewing the mafia as a holdover from Feudalism, there is more and more evidence of the mafia being a weapon of an 'aborted' bourgeoisie, which utilised intimidation upwards and downwards the social hierarchy.
Mafia emergence
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Re: Mafia emergence
I gave away Lupo's book a few months ago and was trying to remember this point. Can't believe I just stumbled on it.
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This is really weird, I was going to bring up this word and a lot of mafia stuff related to things that have been going on, will be going on, must go on, are expected to go on, which I hope won't go on, will stop going on, and dream never went on, will never go on, and could never occur. Except we are very forcefully told that they did, and are, and will, that they are as brutal as basic math, that it is difficult to naturally find a way around them, but then what is it in nature that makes such things necessary and inevitble and even helpful to certain parties? Where does what we think is aberrant but are told is "the law of the jungle" start, and what is it in the design of society and "civilization" that makes this seem so fitting?
The mafias are the enemy, and also what the people have to become to get certain things done, for example not blurting out information that might help whatever group is considered the enemy or working in opposition to the in-group, and strict consequences for those who do, or examples being made of them, ending up becoming no different from the enemy or any enemy, and just the latest holder passed the ball. You and yours win, that ball gets called a globe, and you see so many little lights, perhaps flames, around which burgeoning mafias sit and tell stories, and stories, particularly "good" ones, are expected to have plots.
Plots are not only what Mafias sit on to warm and hatch, but also what they fear the most.
Mafias are Paranoid Societies, and one may suggest, are the only real society there is, particularly if you're paranoid.
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They are trying to expand "RICO" prosecutions to encompass protestors, so laws designed for mafia people would be applied to people protesting things.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rackete ... ations_Act
The aim is most likely to actually close off all options and try to pressure more extreme things, this seems to be "accelerationism" at work.
The mafias are the enemy, and also what the people have to become to get certain things done, for example not blurting out information that might help whatever group is considered the enemy or working in opposition to the in-group, and strict consequences for those who do, or examples being made of them, ending up becoming no different from the enemy or any enemy, and just the latest holder passed the ball. You and yours win, that ball gets called a globe, and you see so many little lights, perhaps flames, around which burgeoning mafias sit and tell stories, and stories, particularly "good" ones, are expected to have plots.
Plots are not only what Mafias sit on to warm and hatch, but also what they fear the most.
Mafias are Paranoid Societies, and one may suggest, are the only real society there is, particularly if you're paranoid.
Added in 4 minutes 8 seconds:
Added in 6 days 1 hour 45 minutes 17 seconds:
This is more on this Mafia stuff coming up:
They are trying to expand "RICO" prosecutions to encompass protestors, so laws designed for mafia people would be applied to people protesting things.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rackete ... ations_Act
The aim is most likely to actually close off all options and try to pressure more extreme things, this seems to be "accelerationism" at work.
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Re: Mafia emergence
The most openly hate filled and racist people, shamelessly vocalizing prejudice, and advocating for abd defebding horrendous violence, on the Earth, acting with utter impunity, protected by their large payouts and threats, the carrot and the stick.
The crimes and victims of their crimes are so many that it would take a very long time to litigate every instance, which is what murderous crooks of this sort probably count on, overloading stunned and incredibly encumbered abd overburdened slow systems with crimes upon crimes upon crimes and vicious and well funded smear campaigns and assassinations. The people who let this become the reality should all be dealt with very harshly by the general public who are now the victims of these policies protecting very literal and historical t*rroristic criminals and traffickers.
Then they outsourced a good deal of their operations to Indians:
Gradually creating a homunculus sub-section of their population to behave in similarly corrupt ways, but to not get away with it as well.
He mentions "the dangers of crossing this woman".
They are trying to create the same overall sense of terror at even daring to expose or discuss anything done by massive state sponsored criminal organizations and cabals.
https://electronicintifada.net/content/ ... rael/50730
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_tra ... g_in_India
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_tra ... _in_Israel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwi_Migdal
https://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/ar ... te-slavery
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-Am ... ized_crime
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_mafia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_J ... n_mobsters
https://mjhnyc.org/events/kosher-nostra ... ed-states/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_terrorism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Cana ... ized_crime
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj07vzm9n11o
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organised_crime_in_India
https://torontosun.com/news/world/mumba ... -in-canada
The two groups have been criminal entities for a long time, and the children of criminals, trained in criminal activities and operations and terror are in control of their countries but also have undue influence elsewhere through criminal operations and use everything from bullying and harassment to extortion, violence, and state funded and sponsored killings, drug trafficking, weapons trafficking, and sex trafficking in a huge campaign if vice peddling and putting people in compromising situations, and these are directly tied to their intelligence agencies and their celebrities and their media campaigns and influencers online, all of these have connections and funding coming straight from government entities who have traditional ties to espionage, terrorism, and organized crime for generations now. Nothing will be done because the people who might stand a chance to do anything would be faced with a life threatening war, just like dealing with powerful cartels, so instead they opt to take the bribes or keep their lives and participate in the compromising s*x parties, and puppets with addictions and weaknesses are specifically picked after being profiled and tested in order to put in the most corrupt people, we are dealing with a government run by criminally compromised people under the thumb of lethal gangsters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_state
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In politics, a mafia state is a state system where the government is tied with organized crime to the degree when government officials, the police, and/or military became a part of the criminal enterprise.[1][2] According to US diplomats, the expression "mafia state" was coined by Alexander Litvinenko.[3]
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The ties with media have always been extremely tight.
Nothing can be done because international governments are all compromised, corrupt, and bribed, and nothing short of mass scale war and extremely harsh measures can do anything to change completely mafia controlled nations. There is no international law, order, justice, or safety for the public from gangsters this powergul, organized, and well armed, ready at a moments notice to create big smear campaigns with paid for outsourced operators like Filipinos and the poorest people from around the world, including their own nations, and expensive "lawfare" efforts:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawfare
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Lawfare is the use of legal systems and institutions to affect foreign or domestic affairs, as a more peaceful and rational alternative, or as a less benign adjunct, to warfare.
Detractors have alternately begun to define the term as, "An attempt to damage or delegitimize an opponent, or to deter an individual's usage of their legal rights". The term may refer to the use of legal systems and principles against an enemy, such as by damaging or delegitimizing them, wasting their time, energy, and money (e.g., by bringing strategic lawsuits against public participation, or SLAPP), or winning a public relations victory. Alternatively, it may describe a tactic used by repressive regimes to label and discourage civil society or individuals from claiming their legal rights via national or international legal systems. This is especially common in situations when individuals and civil society use nonviolent methods to highlight or oppose discrimination, persecution, corruption, lack of democracy, limitations of freedom of speech, violations of human rights, and violations of international humanitarian law.
Since the early 2000s, the use of legal mechanisms in conflict contexts has drawn significant international attention.[1] During this period, particularly in the context of the U.S.-led "war on terror", both the United States and *sr**l have characterized legal challenges to their military operations as a form of lawfare—a term used to describe the perceived exploitation of legal systems to achieve political or ideological objectives.[1] Critics argue that this framing delegitimizes the legal efforts of less powerful actors who seek accountability through international institutions.[1] China has also employed lawfare, to advance its geopolitical objectives and repress dissidents abroad.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smear_campaign
They have billions upon billions of dollars, practically infinite money and sway, all weapons and weapons manufacturing under their control, and can "disappear" anyone or cause a "chilling effect" by making an assasination very well publicized to make people fear for thrir own lives and back off. There is basically no way to win in any straightforward approach.
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