Your most Radical thoughts!

[Whisper]

Additionally, my gender therapist remarks that Butler's theory of queerness is completely dismissive of trans people's experiences. I am not trying to follow any of the societally defined gender roles. I am just a female. That is all.

[kFoyauextlH]

It is another curious irony that women are often considered the artificial construct while having been associated with everything living and natural and men who have been designated as the bringers of artificial order are considered the untouched base which women should work towards being more like, that a woman isn't doing justice to woman-kind if she is not behaving as a rational man but a foolish mad raving witch.
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Yeah. There are lots of people who talk crap and don't even know what they are saying. Lots of prejudiced feminists and physical females who buy into and sell all sorts of ignorant and dismissive things and who don't really understand what it is at all to be in certain situations or positions.
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" For me the angle is coming from the other direction almost, that if someone wants to call this feminine, then so be it, but its real is the point, and its coming from a legitimate place, and regardless of people wrangling over names and terms, we feel it and we know it and we do it and we live it and its here and its real and its underneath as well as on top, and even if the top says this or that, its the real message underneath that doesn't and can't be denied.

On a very basic level there is an inclination for people to reject any sort of stereotypes, but what they might be forgetting is the words are little different than conventions and stereotypes, these are languages, and languages are meant to communicate and express things. What you express is so much more than people might even realize, down to the whole struggle taken on over any of it as well, it all means a great deal. People have to look past the sounds or the surface aspects and really try to see what is being said, why it is being said, and the real etymologies of our actions, choices, preferences, and ultimately the statements we make just by being and doing. "
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Sometimes I start to doubt my hate, and then pain, unwanted and extreme, hits and I remember how true everything I state and wish is, it all comes back to me.

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Additionally, my gender therapist remarks that Butler's theory of queerness is completely dismissive of trans people's experiences. I am not trying to follow any of the societally defined gender roles. I am just a female. That is all.


I see nothing of the sort in Butler and there is a massive rejection of post-structuralism within feminism which I am aware of, I think it's because of performance coming across as 'not real/authentic' and this is simply not the case at all. Making Butlers' work into one concept/identity i.e. 'queer' means you've reified queer as the end in and of itself. My reading of Butler was an endless opening of possibilities and one that accepts sexual difference.

I came to the same conclusion myself, I am just me, take me as I come. 

I'm sorry if sharing my experience with you offends you in anyway, but that was what happened, I live an experimental lifestyle.

We all form groups based on how we act, how we act forms images which we define ourselves for others with and they in turn do the same, struggle is contingent. Identities are formed by images from the ego and this informs the subject to give the impression that we are not fragmented beings, but a coherent whole.

[kFoyauextlH]

Have you found groups with which you identify? Could you all list them? I can make another thread for that, but golly gosh I can't seem to find any group with which to identify or feel at home with. Its really unpleasant even. There just seems to be nothing I can say really fits well with me, that I can really fit with.

It gets weirder though. I get flashes of things, images, that seem to represent me, but they are always singular figures, never part of a group, never duplicates. One of the images that keeps flashing is medieval art of a veiled face figure, their face can't be seen at all but they are some kind of spiritual teacher or something. There isn't more than one though.

​​I really want to be someone, something, have a cause to deep passionate about or fight for, to have a God and a country. I just don't. I am a stranger in every land, in every temple the things people say and do are always foreign to me.

I have never deeply felt companionship or comeradery with anyone.

Besides that, I am thinking about all the people who abandoned me in my life, all the girls who went away hurt and hurting me too. Its really so sad. I wonder what if anything they even knew about me even though I was always raw andvreal like this and never deceptive, becauseall I want is to be known and loved sincerely, the real me, which is why the veil over my face in those images that flash by. I am the thing that moves the figure. The veil is not to conceal but to reveal, to hide the fallacies, accidents, and distractions.

I am so untouched, and I live like a ghost. To be touched is to feel presence, to be held in place, embraced in a station by people, acknowledged without necessity of verbal approval or certificates. So much of my time has been to try to be here but always finding that here is a lonely place which none share.

I am rejected. I can't imagine, I can't even think of what a group of me would be. Maybe I could get in with Mourners, wailing at a funeral. It sounds a bit boring though. Maybe that is the trouble with groups. Maybe the other problem is I don't like taking orders or conforming to what I deem errors. Maybe the problem is that I only bow when I have to and not to anything except what makes me do so.

What is me?

Highly musanthropic while deeply compassionate.

Violent and utterly opposed to violence of any sort to anything.

Chaotic, hating chaos, living by it, working against it always.

What do I think of myself? I think I am really wonderful, and I wish everything thought that of me as well. That I really am the best. Absolutely Fabulous. Not God, but Me.

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I don't know to be honest, I don't think I could define myself as belonging to a general over all group. I usually end up associated with groups and blamed for their actions, as are identity politics these days, but I treat others as they arrive, as they come.

I suppose the big divide these days is between those who bury heads in sand in regards to climate change and those who don't.

[kFoyauextlH]

I think I am a head burier. I think I bury my head about everything because I feel utterly powerless to affect any change whatsoever in the world or what is decided anywhere by anyone. So I feel like I can relate a lot with the long dead. Powerless to say anything or to have their say in how they are interpreted. If someone asked me to fight for a cause, I would just hide away probably. Nothing in this world seems worth fighting for or defending except in a very direct way, but my chest hurts so much I am not sure I could put up much of a defense anyway. I really feel like the whole world, the entire Universe practically has let me go, like gravity just reversed and I am only forcing myself to hang on to it. What groups do got people probably is give them a sense of belonging and anchor them to the Earth with obligations and aspirations and people they want to stick around for or whatever. In my case, I walk with my hands, grabbing onto anything and pulling at it because I am being drawn violently away. Its as if my holding on is just the last of me, and the rest of me is already long gone into outerspace, where one does not give a sh*t about the plight of Palestine or puppy dogs. Gosh I just don't care! Its not even in a good way, I want to care, but its just so far away, even if I see tragedy right infrontvof me, I hate it but that is all I can do about what has happened. I can't make it not happen, I can't make it so nothing similar occurs again, nine of my appeals or petitions or protests seem to do anything in any form. I'm just like a ghost. Most people seem to be dead like me, but just don't want to talk about it. They would be hard pressed even making the smallest seemin lasting changes in their communities as well or in their neighbors homes or among their families.

They are the voiceless fricative, the bi-labial ffff

We are so much more like holograms than solid things. I've been negated. Maybe someone who is real and has a body which is mingled in the world can do something, but I have never seen it.

Humanity seems to have always held their head skyward, wanting to float above the ground, touching less and less so as not to be touched by it.
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" http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=felicity "

Often I feel if I am perceived at all it is as if a caricature, made up of things with the cruel irony of also being entirely alien to me. So that even if it were true it might be more pleasant, but I can't even make it so!

It is especially brutal when people don't believe me and instead believe their idiotic assumptions instead or insist on even the possibility of their lies they just thought up in order to draw their stupid unrelated figure of me. It is really frustrating. It is like someone who keeps saying "Well you are Mexican, so why not go to the Mexicans, surely your family can call up relatives in Mexico and get you to meet some Mexicans" when I have nothing to do with Mexico, have never been to Mexico, have no family connections to Mexico, nor anything remotely Latin American or Spanish, in any way at all. Its like pure madness. Go to these random people and do what? Why? What the hell!

The conversations I've had with people are nothing but absurdity after absurdity, as if a joke is being played on me. Not only do I feel completely unheard, but also completely unseen. I can be standing right there and what they are seeing or speaking to seems to be something only they can see which is saying things even while I am not. So I can't even have my body. This isn't even an exaggeration, people will just talk to me as if I have said something or even looked at them which I haven't and will be responding to things I never said and referring to a person I am not. These people may be insane but they seem to be the vast majority online and offline.

I have never in my life had a conversation with anyone who seems to not be speaking to this apparent guardian mask that they each invent that never says what I say or is what I am.

[Intellectus]

Please feel free to use this thread to state the most radical thinking and thoughts you can muster. Even better if these are radical thoughts you particularly hold and can defend your meaning and reasoning for. Though if you mention ideas which you find radical but don't subscribe to personally that is fine as well but should be mentioned.

I will begin by providing some examples. These can be philosophical positions or point to certain overall systems or theories but should be the sort of thing that is defensibly true or true-ish and can also be a personal position which appears obscure or politically incorrect or taboo.

Making mention of such things is to bring out into the open the extreme ideas we may secretly harbor or otherwise believe possible. Please don't make mention of mere illogical and senseless , they have to be at least workable and have some sense behind them while being radical or the sort of thing which might make trouble or get a gang of thugs to join in on a kicking spree of the odd one out.

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The value of women seems to me to be adjusted or increased by their perceived beauty or attractiveness while men are only saved in the view of many men by their ability to make one laugh. The ability to make one laugh can help an ugly woman but seems less helpful for her than it does for a man. The dominant mind in the use of most languages in literature appears to be male and thinking in such a fashion to the point where even women for the sake of speaking have adopted these common modes of self description and valuing themselves or their category based on male standards of beauty. If a woman is ugly, she appears in a great many senses doomed , but an ugly man feels that way as well , luckily they may have more strategies for acquiring or receiving help than an ugly woman in some ways at least. I have said all this to provide the background for the statement that I value women for their beauty and men for nothing really. If it came down to choosing between a man and a woman a woman would have more interest or value to me than a man even if he were more intelligent seeming than the woman. , so long is she is somewhat attractive whereas a man wouldn't be and my decision may just be the sort that saves the human race, keeping them longer in the tortures of Samsara.


The fundamentals of anything ever created by man can solve any complex problem made by man. The notion is that one needs to look all throughout time to find the answer. In other words, use data from all sources of worth. Like science and religion, or philosophy and math. Use conceptual theory and blend everything to create something that no one has ever thought of.


This includes ALL questions that we burdened ourselves with since the beginning of man. However, we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the thinking of man so is it bad that we are here on the eve of destruction of our own planet? Well, yes and no. Its a chicken and egg scenario, a oxymoron. But anything worth in the universe first needs to suffer. Its like losing something and then realizing its importance only once you lost it. So, our suffering needs to happen, and for a good reason. Because the end is not really the end of the World, its a new beginning. like when Jesus said "I will be with you till the end of the world." but the actual word used was Aeon (age). I will be with you till the end of the aeon. Which is 2150, the age of Aquarius I believe. However, I would like to see this new World for myself so I'll try my best to help it heal in my own way and speed up this process.

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Sounds very Accelerationist @"Intellectus"