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She seems to be lying about her height, wearing huge shoes that make it seem like she might just be 6'0 rather than 7'0 as she repeatedly claims.

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People should experiment just changing around the "men" thing with every other sort of category or term to find out how racist and discriminatory they are beyond just sexist. Most people would avoid a very long list of things and types of people as precautionary even if unwarranted because they don't want to be the fools or to blame, "better safe than sorry".

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Have you come across the Sacred Masculinity stuff? I jotted down my summary of it the other day: man respect woman, man has big stick, man scare enemy.
More of the same really, just instead of hating women, women are to be respected. Which to be fair is a massive improvement on Tate bros views.
I can't help feeling suspicious though. One such man - influencer - spoke of a term for weak men from the vikings (ofc I don't remember the term/insult): men who can't lead are inferior, not to be respected, and are situated in the domain of women - whether by their own volition or due to being pushed out and rejected from the masculine domain into the female domain.
Still the top down hierarchy/patriarchy insisting that you can't just be, you can be this or that, but not something less clearly defined as either.

[kFoyauextlH]

The term is most likely "ergi"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergi

[jwmart]

Yes that was it!
Interesting in the Wikipedia article it suggest the possibility the negative connotations could have been partially contributed, or increased due to the influx of Christianity. It would not be atypical of Christianity to do so. Sometimes also there's a tendency to romanticise ancient cultures as being more peaceful and wise (or heroic and wise, adjust to taste). [[[ something about evolution, roots, fighting, predators, community, collaboration, always being there, we're not much different, nor were earlier civilisations ]]].
Mechanisms of control. Perhaps it goes back to the tolerant vs the intolerant, it begins with good intentions to protect, but then the intolerant overbear the tolerant so as to expand the mechanisms of control to their own ends.

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When the term ergi became increasingly used in writing from Norse culture, and that it may have been used with some connection to or opposition to Christian ideas is a very interesting point to bring up. I'll provide some clues, but I'll not provide the extensive evidence from search results, do it will be a trust me bro style of post so that I don't put too many links anymore, but I've extensively studied this matter and have for many years with reference to academic papers and books that I have in my library, both digital and physical, since Norse stuff is one of the areas I'm very interested in, along with racist type stuff separately and their overlap, but Norse religion and culture is important to me separate from the right wing uses.



The Norse stuff that people have access to comes from a stage where Christianity may have already started to influence and impact it.



I haven't heard of the misogynistic group you mentioned but I'll probably look into it soon.



A series of videos I wanted to post here are about a sick trend I discovered among the new Hindu culture informed by Z influence on India through the Hindutva right wing radicals that have seized India. The video trend has every misogynistic trope that presents women as wicked, says that women should never be helped in any way even if they are in trouble, and the videos all conclude with a woman being slapped across the face by a man, it is some of the s*ckest sh*t I've seen, all from out of India, and each has multiple millions of views and entirely supportive comment sections full of praise for women being abandoned, ignored, left in suffering, and to be harmed. It is vile hate and misogyny and really pathetic, like they are poisoning themselves with the worst culture and attacking half the population and their own mothers and sisters and daughters, it is wholly wicked. One after another thry produce the same story with different performers under different accounts, each being rewarded with huge amounts of views and monetization as a reward for the misogynistic story it presents and support of violence against women. It also gives a horrific impression of India and Indian people, so it is bad press for them, just like their Z teachers barely seem to comprehend how finding out about them and their culture based on their manner and depictions and statements and behaviour does not make their targets seem as bad as them, they come off as the horrible monsters and not those they are attacking or putting down. In this case, the dumb asses are putting down their own people, the women they will need to continue to live with and breed with, so creating hostility among themselves is just plain stupid, even if they make some money off of it, it is shortsighted and their own government should stop it, but instead it stems from their evil government, some of the most evil in the world today.



The Norse culture has strong connections to the culture and language connected to the Indus and even very specifically the Sindhi people, down to their cultural dress and boat travel traditions as sailors of river and sea. Very related people with similar genes, the R1a1 haplotype, are shared also, besides having the same language and clothing, so it seems like the people were at least at some point much more closely related and the same.



The modern Nordic people who are depicted in media as the Norse are not the same, they don't share the genes, they are not actually from the same stock at all as the people they prop up as their ancestors for national pride and tourism and to garner international interest, as R1a1 and the other Viking genes are not common among their population, and have also shown a lot of mixture from Southern Europe and were not local to Northern Europe where they are so strongly connected. They seem to have followed river paths from the East, and similar paths were also followed to far off regions by the Romani, the gypsies who originate from India. This whole issue becomes a racist political struggle and the truth is deliberately obscured because Nationalists don't want to hand over anything to groups they deem inferior or "darker", but the Norse were famously not as they are often depicted, but tended towards being able to tan more and had long dark wavy hair that they would comb, and the men and the women were less different looking from each other, and the men were effeminate looking, so that both the males and the females tended to look more similar and androgynous. There are academic papers about all of this, and it is a relief that you may be so overwhelmed by information that I don't have to post them here as evidence lol, it feels great to be able to just discuss all the information I've read through. I have probably already posted things on this site about all this though, in various threads.



The Bible, particularly The New Testament, presents some ideas about masculinity and gender roles and costume and appearance which were mixed with Roman trends and standards. So the Norse curation of their appearance, with careful combing and other things possibly like darkening around the eyes and things that may have been picked up from the East and Middle East and across the world where they had trade interactions, which brought about things like their having a Buddha statue from Pakistan and possible familiarity with Allah as a term, made them associated with the East ad even Saracens or Muslims, who were also sometimes disparaged as effeminate or with different standards than the Christianized Europeans who wanted to constantly distinguish themselves through "othering", something they may have picked up both from the Bible and Greco-Roman popular histories and trends among the intellectuals of Greece and Rome which permeated later ecclesiastic and Church academic education and overall culture.



Now here comes a little confusion potentially. Like their closely related fellows across the world, the Indo-European people with strong connections to the East tended to wear trousers, called pants in North America, both males and females, while the Greco-Roman world did not wear pants. That might seem like an insignificant point of data but I think it plays a very big role, just like it would in more recent times, about "who wears the pants" and what it means. The Greco-Roman style evolved and was taken by the Christians of Europe, so that they were wearing clothing that may have been considered unmanly by the horse-riding trousers wearers, while the androgynous nature of the Eastern types may have appeared effeminate to those in the Greco-Roman costumes, and they had also seen depictions of the "Amazons", female warriors in Eastern costume, wearing trousers.



The Christians may have looked like they were wearing female styled clothing, especially as longer skirts became more common in some of the cultures bordering the Christianized ones, and the prayers and charms of Christians may have also appeared like the trappings of what women were more commonly doing among the later Vikings, since sidr or the magical practices became increasingly associated with women specifically, and even female spirit animals called fylgja were associated with sorcerers, even if they were otherwise warband leaders, but this all was likely a late development overall, though women being used as magical characters who were sought out was quite ancient, but a man taking such a role might have been considered shrugging off male duties that required more physicality, even though the differences among the Viking males and females was negligible and less different than as commonly seen among males and females today, particularly in Western cultures.



So each was likely calling the other effeminate and lusty looking, whore-like and gay, but the Christians were more likely to have started the insults based on the Bible and their feeling threatened by these Eastern migrations and wanting to stop the attraction felt by their women and the intermarriages that were occurring which threatened their demographics and the growth of their own religion against a competing culture.



The Vikings or Norse may then have adopted some of these insults, turning them against those who were calling them such and also against others of their own, and this was sometimes more likely to occur when they were more culturally Christianized.



Funnily enough, "paganism" was always associated by J and then Christians with lust, sexuality, and effeminacy since a very early period as indicated by the Bible, and this has continued until today, except that white supremacist or white supremacist adjacent and Nationalist and Ultra-Nationalist jingoistic "patriot" type movements (very often funded by Supremacist Is and Christian Z U.S.A.) have tried to make "paganism" masculine and misogynistic, attracting young men to the idea of muscular superhero-like "Gods" as ideals of themselves and Dragon Ball Z styled machismo pipe dreams which tend to attract nerds and ultimately closeted homosexuals where the adoration of the male physique is taken to such extremes that it is practically spiritualized and secretly sexualized, making them pretty much gay for their National Spirit of "Genii" and similar representations, especially when it is coupled with a hatred of women and moderation towards androgyny or what becomes considered effeminacy, formerly known as normalcy and rational balance.



That is where the metrosexual effeminacy of aestheticism, like extreme concern regarding personal health, bodybuilding, and looksmaxxing is somehow connected to racism, eugenics, and caucasian pride.



The whole loop is crazy, and it may very well be that very Ancient Norse and Vikings and Proto-Norse and Proto-Vikings had nothing to do with any of this or this sort if thinking whatsoever.



In remaining myths, they seem to be attributing gender swapping incidents freely to their most beloved and worshipped figures, though at other times associating such with shame and insults or humorous embarrassment, but these stories are coming through from a time after the Christian impact had already started and was well under way, and it can be hard to tell what was common among the thought of any devout people as that is not usually recorded by the intellectuals who are literate and recording things for specific purposes, besides also stories coming from different competing cults and religious variants.



I use Norse terminology frequently in my own thinking and beliefs, and I don't believe in literal anthropomorphic thunder and inspiration as humanoid, but that God, which is an Indo-European word too, is most referred to possibly now across the whole world due to the prevalence of English as an international tongue, and that God, Odin, and Allah are the same, that Thor and Loki are likewise different aspects and attributes of one intelligent power manifesting through all things and controlling them, and that it is in the image if literally Nothing, but is responsible for every appearance in our experience. Odin's attributes and qualities appear in the Qur'an, and the name or epithet in the Qur'an that seems to be linked to these things, at least one of them, is Rahman, which as "Ramanu"nor "Rimmon" in more Ancient times was associated with the constellation of Corvus or The Crow or Raven and known as "The Thunderer". All the qualities of the major Norse deities are mentioned in the Qur'an and Vedas, but people will not tend to notice that or be aware of any of it or to do extensive research about things from other periods of history, and this limits them in my opinion and even cuts them off from the truth and much of spirituality and the spiritual experience.



So I believe that I worship, literally, all the various Gods from all cultures throughout history as One Power, recognizing those various names and terms as references to aspects and domains pertaining to one power, like how Amun was considered at some times by some as apparently the One, King of all Netjer, all the different "Gods" or epithets.



The people who wanted to attack all such and pridefully boast about massacring people for this reason and making some specific tribal thing the one that has to destroy and put down all others instead of absorbing or accepting and syncretizing or acknowledging things, and comitting heinous crimes according to their written history and history recorded up until today, are not counted by me as among any I can accept or include, due to their vehement hatred and their fabricated and near meaningless national deity which just appropriates and then insults others rather than being harmonious or respectful. They are teaching the Hindus to behave like that too now, when that isn't how it was in the past apparently. There are similarities with the rudeness of some Buddhists also, though I use Mahayana Buddhist terms in my own thinking and beliefs, but I largely reject many of the things that they suggest, which are ascetic and human over-glorifying, basically transhuman and life destroying, and so the originators of all this, I'm not fond of, and they seem to be the Zoroastrians, the Buddhists, the Platonists, the J, and the Gnostics, the Christians, and others like the Kurds or Yezidi, Druze, and Freemasons and New Religions, there is a whole lineage that seems closely related and largely stemming out of the area that became controlled by the Zoroastrians and influencing a lot, which differed from another chain of the religions which did not seem to do quite the same thing and seemed closer together as far flung as they are, the other chain being like all the older "pagan" religions which were less strictly dichotomous seeming. The final synthesis of these two strains seems to be Islam as one of the last practiced religions left on the Earth, and that it has somewhat fulfilling exercises that feel like authentic practices coupled with a way of interpreting information, so that it feels like one is doing something for a reason and towards something, has in many ways helped it to become a dominant and ever growing "technology" that many people adopt when dissatisfied by the seeming nothingness of Christian practice and otherwise general material culture and hopeless feeling atheism under a countdown towards certain death. The Qur'an, though the most strictly monotheistic religious text in history, seems to be the final stage that paganism and polytheism was headed back towards as it was trying to deal with the popularity and increasing enforcement of Christianity, and the Qur'an ends up being the greatest threat to the status of J and the Christian buffer it incubates inside, because its Universalism and total absorption makes it calculably the most natural and popular option, so there had to be repeated measures, just as there are today, to stop it from being heard and recognized by the common people, as it would dethrone the special status of the J or the J God or the God who is a J Man and give an option for all people to be on an equal standing with their personalized and individual, ultimately anarchic relationship to God as they determine how to interpret things for themselves and do the right thing, but this democratization and protestant style sola scriptura approach has been impeded by multiple efforts, including efforts that try to turn people to other things, distract them, make them more backwards, and put them under the authority of scholars who can then be bribed and controlled, so there are movements, funded by people actually hostile to Islam and its growth overall, to convince younger people to only listen to whatever authorities say, and those authorities are controlled by the wealthy, the elite, the irreligious even.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serkland

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The exact etymology is disputed. Serk- may derive from "Saracen"; from sericum, Latin for "silk", implying a connection with the Silk Road; from the Khazar fortress of Sarkel; or from serkr, shirt or gown, i.e., "land of the gown-wearers". In all cases it refers to a land in the East. Originally, it referred to the land south of the Caspian Sea, but it gradually expanded to cover all Islamic lands, including parts of Africa (and possibly even Muslim Sicily).[1][2]
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MedievalHistory/s/2pn0QmdsJD

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I've started a new project of reading through the chansons de geste over on my substack, Adam's Notes. This week I'm covering Gormont et Isembart, one of the earliest gestes. It's a very, very loose approach to an actual battle fought in 881 between the Franks and the Vikings, but by the time it was written down in manuscript form (sometime between 1068 and 1150) the Vikings of the story had morphed into Saracens. It's the story of Isembart, who renounces Christianity to fight alongside King Gormont. It's also very fragmented: only 661 lines survive, and these cover the final, epic battle. Luckily though, there are some callback that tell us what happened earlier in the poem.

If that sounds interesting to you, you can check out more on my substack, Adam's Notes. I also have another project which is a read through of the 17-century diary of Samuel Pepys.
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Your supposition about "saracen" becoming a synonym for "heathens" is largely correct. This happens in several stories, and there's even a manuscript where Sweyn Forkbeard is drawn in a turban waving a scimitar.

But the process can be complicated. In the Anglo-Norman romance of King Horn, the bad guys are also clearly Vikings, but they're not only called Saracens throughout, they're said to have come from Africa, and the narrator promises a sequel where King Horn conquers Egypt, and his son all of Arabia. This was written in the Court of Henry II shortly after the Beckett incident when people wanted Henry to take up the Cross in repentence, so the conflating of Vikings and Saracens had a political purpose.

The Middle English version of the tale, written when the Crusades were winding down, keeps the Saracen terminology but has the villains behave more like Vikings, and in the even later poem Horn Childe and Maiden Rimnild, they're straight up Danes and Irishmen.

As to your point about the Chansons de Geste avoiding the mythological elements of Arthurian legend, this is only true of the early material. The fairy king Oberon originates in Huon of Bordeaux, and later writers have Arthur and Morgan le Fay as denizens of fairyland.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Termagant

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In the Middle Ages, Termagant or Tervagant was the name of a god that some European Christians believed Muslims worshipped.[1][2] It originates in the eleventh-century Song of Roland.

The word is also used in modern English to mean a violent, overbearing, turbulent, brawling, quarrelsome woman; a virago, shrew, or vixen.[1]
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That is how the female who gets slapped in the misogynistic videos from India acts. The Hindutva attacks Muslims and women.

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European literature from the Middle Ages often refers to Muslims as pagans and depicts them worshipping Muhammad along with various idols and sometimes other deities, such as Apollyon, Lucifer and Termagant. In some writings, such as the Song of Roland, these were combined to create an "unholy Trinity" of sorts composed of Apollyon, Muhammad and Termagant.[3]

The original form of the name is Tervagan. There are many hypotheses explaining the origin of the name, but it does not seem to derive from any actual aspect of Muslim belief or practice, however wildly distorted. Gustav Beckmann lists 23 different theories. He defends that first proposed by Ugo Foscolo in 1819 that Tervagan is the dea trivia, the threefold moon goddess Luna–Diana–Persephone (or Selene–Artemis–Hecate), attested since classical antiquity. Thus, ter vagan means 'three wandering [i.e., like the moon]'. Apollyon (Apollin) is simply Apollo, Diana's brother.[4]

Walter William Skeat, accepting the meaning "thrice wandering" as a reference to the moon, tied the name "Trivagante" to the Islamic use of crescent moon imagery. Joseph T. Shipley argues that the Italian Trivigante became confused with termigisto, meaning "boaster," derived from Hermes Trismegistus, leading to Termagant.[5] Leo Spitzer argues that Tervagant, like several other names ending in -ant from the Matter of France (e.g. Baligant and Morgant), is an "occitanization" of a vulgar Latin present participle created by Old French poets for exotic effect. He proposes as its etymon terrificans ("terrifying"), appropriate for a god.[6] Alternately, Aleksander Gieysztor derives the name from the Slavic deity Triglav, with the name having spread west into French-speaking lands.[7]

James A. Bellamy proposes that the names Tervagan and Apollin in the Song of Roland derive from Ibn ʿAffān and Abū Bakr, two of Muhammad's companions, in-laws and successors.[8]
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Thrice Wandering

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Whatever its origins, "Termagant" became established in the West as the supposed name of the principal idol supposedly worshipped by Saracens, being regularly mentioned in chivalric romances and chansons de geste. The spelling of the name varies considerably (Tervigant, Tervagant, Tarvigant, etc.).[6]

In Occitan literature, the troubadour Austorc d'Aorlhac refers to Bafomet and Termagant (Tervagan) side by side in one sirventes, referring also to the latter's "companions".

In the 15th-century Middle English romance Syr Guy of Warwick, a Sultan swears an oath by Termagant.

In the Chanson de Roland, the Saracens, having lost the battle of Roncesvalles, desecrate their "pagan idols" (lines 2589–90) including Tervagan.

Tervagant is also a statue worshipped by the "king of Africa" in the Jean Bodel play in Old French after the end of the Third Crusade (c.1200), Le jeu de saint Nicolas.

In the Sowdone of Babylone, the sultan makes a vow to Termagaunte(lines 135–40):[9]

Of Babiloyne the riche Sowdon,Moost myghty man he was of moolde;He made a vowe to Termagaunte:Whan Rome were distroied and hade myschaunce,He woolde turne ayen erraunteAnd distroye Charles, the Kinge of Fraunce.In Geoffrey Chaucer's The Canterbury Tales, "Sir Thopas" (supposed to be told by Chaucer himself on the pilgrimage) is a parody of these chivalric romances. In the tale, a knight giant named "Sir Oliphaunt" is made to swear an oath by Termagant.

In Herman Melville's Mardi (Chapters 25, 26, 28), Samoa's wife Annatoo is described as a Termagant, and metaphorically referred to as Antonina to Samoa's Belisarius. Explaining why she did not need the armaments on the ship, Melville writes "Her voice was a park of artillery; her talons a charge of bayonets." (Chapter 23.)

Ludovico Ariosto used the form Trivigante.[6]

It has been claimed that Termagant became a stock character in medieval mystery plays[10][11] but another source denies this.[12] In the theatre, Termagant was usually depicted as a turbanned creature who wore a long, Eastern style gown. As a stage-villain, he would rant at and threaten the lesser villains who were his servants and worshipers.

As a result of the theatrical tradition, by Shakespeare's day the term had come to refer to a bullying person. Henry IV, part 1 contains a reference to "that hot termagant Scot". In Hamlet, the hero says of ham actors that "I would have such a fellow whipped for o'er-doing Termagant, it out-Herods Herod". Herod, like Termagant, was also a character from medieval drama who was famous for ranting. Beaumont and Fletcher's play, A King and No King, contains the line "This would make a saint swear like a soldier, and a soldier like Termagant."[13]

Mainly because of Termagant's depiction in long gowns, and given that female roles were routinely played by male actors in Shakespearean times, English audiences got the mistaken notion that the character was female, or at least that he resembled a mannish woman.[5] As a result, the name "termagant" came increasingly to be applied to a woman with a quarrelsome, scolding quality, a sense that it retains today. This was a well-established usage by the late 17th century. Thomas Shadwell's play The Squire of Alsatia (1688) contains a character called Mrs Termagant who is out for revenge on one of the other characters, and is described as a "furious, malicious, and revengeful woman; perpetually plaguing him, and crossing him in all his designs; pursuing him continually with her malice, even to the attempting of his life."[14] Arthur Murphy's play The Upholsterer (1758) also contains a female character called "Termagant".[15] In Washington Irving's "Rip Van Winkle" (1819), Dame Van Winkle is described as a "termagant wife". "Virago", "fishwife" and "shrew" are near-synonyms for "termagant" in this sense. In season 2 of Westworld, Major Craddock calls Dolores a termagant.

The term is still sometimes used of men. In 2008, the Australian politician Kim Beazley labelled opponent Tony Abbott a termagant.[16]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahound

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High,_Jus ... _and_Third

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regnator_omnium_deus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crom_Cruach

https://en.natmus.dk/historical-knowled ... jewellery/

https://www.stk.uio.no/english/research ... g-age.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubba

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A depiction of Ragnar Lodbrok (Lothbrok) and his sons, Ivar and Ubba, worshipping pagan idols, as it appears on folio 39r of British Library Harley 2278.[307] This illustration depicts the pagan Danes as elaborately dressed Muslim Saracens, wearing tall turban-like headdresses and forked beards. Other illustrations in the manuscript, depicting Ivar and Ubba, show Vikings armed with curved swords.[308][note 37]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermes_Trismegistus

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Hermes Trismegistus (from Ancient Greek: Ἑρμῆς ὁ Τρισμέγιστος, "Hermes the Thrice-Greatest")
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Muslims pronounce Allah Hu Akbar three times during each prostration in the formal worship, called Salat. It means "God Is Great" with the further implication that there is nothing else really Great but God alone.

The Cube or Kaba structure in Mecca and surrounding it is called Masjid Al-Haram, and Hermes and the root HRM seem to have the same origin.

HermesTrismegistus (from Ancient Greek: Ἑρμῆς ὁ Τρισμέγιστος, "Hermes the Thrice-Greatest")

https://www.stockholmuniversitypress.se ... 6993/bay.d

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The earliest form of the name Hermes (Ἑρμῆς) is the Mycenaean Greek *hermāhās,[12] written 𐀁𐀔𐁀 e-ma-a2 (e-ma-ha) in the Linear B syllabic script.[13] Other forms of the name of Hermes are Hermeias (Ἑρμείας), Hermaōn (Ἑρμάων), Hermān (Ἑρμᾱν), Hermaios (Ἓρμαιος), and Hermaỵos (Ἓρμαιυος).[14] Most scholars derive Hermes from Greek ἕρμα (herma),[15] 'stone heap'.[3]: 177  Hermax, ('heap of stones'),[16] hermaīon, ('gift of Hermes'),[17] hermaīos hill were holy to Hermes.[14]

The etymology of ἕρμα itself is unknown, but is probably not a Proto-Indo-European word.[12] R. S. P. Beekes rejects the connection with herma and suggests a Pre-Greek origin.[12] However, the stone etymology is also linked to Indo-European *ser- ('to bind, put together'). Scholarly speculation that Hermes derives from a more primitive form meaning 'one cairn' is disputed.[18] Other scholars have suggested that Hermes may be a cognate of the Vedic Sarama.[19][20]

It is likely that Hermes is a pre-Hellenic god, though the exact origins of his worship, and its original nature, remain unclear. Frothingham thought the god to have existed as a Mesopotamian snake-god, similar or identical to Ningishzida, a god who served as mediator between humans and the divine, especially Ishtar, and who was depicted in art as a caduceus.[21][22] Angelo (1997) thinks Hermes to be based on the Thoth archetype.[23] The absorbing ("combining") of the attributes of Hermes to Thoth developed after the time of Homer amongst Greeks and Romans; Herodotus was the first to identify the Greek god with the Egyptian (Hermopolis) (Plutarch and Diodorus also did so), although Plato thought the gods were dissimilar (Friedlander 1992).[24][25]

His cult was established in Greece in remote regions, likely making him originally a god of nature, farmers, and shepherds. It is also possible that since the beginning he has been a deity with shamanic attributes linked to divination, reconciliation, magic, sacrifices, and initiation and contact with other planes of existence, a role of mediator between the worlds of the visible and invisible.[26] According to a theory that has received considerable scholarly acceptance, Hermes originated as a form of the god Pan, who has been identified as a reflex of the Proto-Indo-European pastoral god *Péh2usōn,[27][28] in his aspect as the god of boundary markers. The PIE root *peh2 'protect' also shows up in Latin pastor 'shepherd' (whence the English pastoral). A zero grade of the full PIE form (*ph2usōn) yields the name of the Sanskrit psychopomp Pushan, who, like Pan, is associated with goats.[29] Later, the epithet supplanted the original name itself and Hermes took over the role of psychopomp and as god of messengers, travelers, and boundaries, which had originally belonged to Pan, while Pan himself continued to be venerated by his original name in his more rustic aspect as the god of the wild in the relatively isolated mountainous region of Arcadia. In later myths, after the cult of Pan was reintroduced to Attica, Pan was said to be Hermes's son.[28][30]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%B8%A4-R-M

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminus_(god)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herm_(sculpture)

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In the earliest times Greek divinities were worshipped in the form of a heap of stones or a shapeless column of stone or wood. In many parts of Greece there were piles of stones by the sides of roads, especially at their crossings, and on the boundaries of lands. The religious respect paid to such heaps of stones, especially at the meeting of roads, is shown by the custom of each passer-by throwing a stone on to the heap or anointing it with oil.[3] Later there was the addition of a head and phallus to the column, which became quadrangular (the number four was sacred to Hermes).[4]

In ancient Greece the statues were thought to ward off harm or evil, an apotropaic function, and were placed at crossings, country borders and boundaries as protection, in front of temples, near to tombs, outside houses, in the gymnasia, palaestrae, libraries, porticoes, and public places, at the corners of streets, on high roads as sign-posts, with distances inscribed upon them.[5] Before his role as protector of merchants and travelers, Hermes was a phallic god, associated with fertility, luck, roads and borders. His name perhaps comes from the word herma, referring to a square or rectangular pillar of stone, terracotta, or bronze; a bust of Hermes' head, usually with a beard,[6] sat on the top of the pillar, and male genitals adorned the base. The surmounting heads were not, however, confined to those of Hermes; those of other gods and heroes, and even of distinguished mortals, were of frequent occurrence. In this case a compound was formed:[2] Hermathena (a herm of Athena), Hermares (of Ares), Hermherakles (of Herakles), Hermaphroditus (of Aphrodite—not to be confused with the son of Hermes and Aphrodite with the same name, Hermaphroditus, who had the genitals of both sexes), Hermanubis, Hermalcibiades, and so on. In Athens, where the hermai were most numerous and most venerated, they were placed outside houses as apotropes for good luck.[7] They would be rubbed or anointed with olive oil and adorned with garlands or wreaths.[8] This superstition persists, for example the Porcellino bronze boar of Florence (and numerous others like it around the world), where the nose is shiny from being continually touched for good luck or fertility.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omphalos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baetyl

https://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2005JIMO...33..135M

https://ajsonline.org/article/118268-th ... 228838.pdf

https://rogueclassicism.com/2012/09/29/ ... man-world/

https://popular-archaeology.com/article ... societies/

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Five times a day, approximately one-fourth of the world’s population turns toward Mecca to bow their heads in prayer. The Kaaba at the center of this global genuflection has a cornerstone that some speculate is a meteor.

Meteoritic artifacts appear as early as the dawn of Egypt’s Early Dynastic Period, approximately 4,500 years ago. Archaeological teams in the 1920s reported that beads from the Gerzeh cemetery in northern Egypt had very high concentrations of nickel, typical of meteoritic iron. These are the earliest analyzed artifacts, and modern metal testing technologies mean that chemists can now identify and catalog the presence of meteoritic iron in archaeological collections across Eurasia. Since 2013, this has led to many discoveries reframing the prominence of extraterrestrial resources in the archaeological record, including identifying that King Tutankhamun’s dagger was crafted from a meteor.

Experts believe this opulent weapon was a gift to the boy king’s grandfather Amenhotep III around 1300 BCE, from the king of the Mitanni region, based on the Amarna tablets. This high-status gift is one of the many ways meteoritic iron was revered by ancient civilizations. One of the earliest Egyptian hieroglyphics for iron seems to be derived from a longer phrase translating to: “iron from the sky.”

This word has cosmological connotations associated with the Egyptian belief that the sky was an iron pot or tub filled with water, and bits of it fell to the Earth in the form of meteorites.

“We have evidence for the idea that the sky was a dome made of iron in a few different civilizations,” explains Victoria Almansa-Villatoro, the Egyptologist who analyzed the hieroglyphic for iron (and sky), during an interview. “If all of these civilizations had this idea and they are so spread apart, it is possible that the idea goes way back in time, maybe before writing was invented.”

Almansa-Villatoro emphasizes tracing any common meanings or beliefs linking such cultures is purely speculation. Contemporaneously to the Mitanni, it is believed the Hittites used meteoritic iron by 3,000 to 2,000 BCE as one iron dagger excavated in Alaca Höyük in modern-day Turkey was made from a meteor and dated to 2,500 BCE. Iron pendants from Umm el-Marra in Syria and an iron axe from Ugarit in Lebanon are other key examples of hammered meteoritic iron.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Stone

https://penntoday.upenn.edu/news/plato- ... rage-cubes

https://www.popularmechanics.com/scienc ... to-theory/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxel

The Cube is the shape that symbolizes Earthly matter, and it was the symbol of Hermes/Mercury who was connected to Odin and Lugh (Loki) by the Romans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugus

https://www.academia.edu/26790864/A_COM ... PROSE_EDDA

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However, in the studies that will be focused on, Jens Peter Schjobt and Margret Clunies Ross both argue along similar lines that Loki’s nature is portrayed as ‘unnatural’. According to Carol J. Clover, Loki’s contradictory nature as half-blood giant and ragr[95] (male subjugate, debased male) renders him at odd with the gods, the contemporary audiences and Snorri.[96]Additionally, these later studies can also relate to earlier studies by Sophus Bugge in 1899 and Folke Strom in 1959, who argue that the similarities between Odin and Loki were two representations of the same character.
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In her historiography, Margaret Clunies Rossargues that Loki was an unnatural being whose ‘wrongness’ led to evil deeds.[113] Although this view is somewhatgeneralised and omits social consensus and the development of Loki’s character, this theory does have some credence when accompanied by work by gender historian Carol J. Clover, who argues that Loki’s gender fluidity and magical ability portray him as a ragr malewith a lower status, a figure of ridicule and a scapegoat for the other gods. [114]Although it is suggested that Loki had sexual relationships with females since he had a wife,Sigyn,and allegedly had an affair with Sif, on numerous occasions he took the female form and,we presume, had relations with men.[115]In Loki’s case, changing sex and not adhering to the masculine stereotype, is viewed as deviant behaviour according to the societal norms. Odin also undergoes similar ridicule for effeminate behaviour. As has already been mentioned,seidr and magic were seen as female pursuits, it was uncommon for a male deity such as Odin to be associated with magic.[116] For example, linking to Odin’s dominion over female principles, Loki criticises Odin during the Lokasenna:‘But you, they say, practised seidr on Samsey, and you beat the same drum as the seeresses do, in the likeness of a wizard you journeyed over mankind, and that I thought the hallmark of a pervert.’ [117]Furthermore, Odin is often criticised for obtaining knowledge from women and wearing cloaks and other clothing draped across his body, a style commonly associated with female fashion.[118]Additionally, the Saxo Grammaticus makes similar mention of Odin’s femininity:
‘Yet some were to be found who judged that he was not worthy to approach and resume his rank, because by his stage-tricks and his assumption of a woman's work he had brought the foulest scandal on the name of the gods.’ [119]
Although there is clear evidence to suggest that, similarly to Loki, Odin indulged in what contemporary audiences would have considered as effeminatebehaviour, Loki’s effeminate behaviour was much more pronounced and exaggerated than Odin’s. It could be argued that this is due to the adoption of God-like characteristics and the parallels to Christian iconography. Loki’s character however, according to Jeffrey Burton Russell’s study, with his qualities of sexual deviance and deceitful reputation, closely resemble the devil from the New Testament and the popular image of the devil.
According to Jeffrey Burton Russell’s study of the devil in primitive religions, myths were modified by conscious and unconscious thought. According to this line of thought, the demonization of Loki would initially have been unconscious, however with Christianisation and Snorri’s desire to protect traditional Norse myths in familiar forms to Christian writing, Loki’s demonization became conscious as his role as the ‘devil’ took form. As a historical rather than a theological study, Russell’s work documents the similarities between the god’s traits, characteristicswhich began to embody what that the popular consensus of the ‘devil’ consisted of. With relatively little written in the Old Testament about Satan, the image of the devil was created from ancient fertility and trickster deities, such as Pan, who had been rejected by Christianity.[120]This isillustrated in Appendix E with the depiction of horned Loki from the Kirkby Stephen Stone. It could be argued that Loki’s deviant sexuality and his magical ability created similarities with hedonistic gods whose association with sexual frenzy added to their demonic qualities. Furthermore, the New Testament, written in c.120 AD, does provide writings on demonology and diabology, although these icons were created from elements of other religions, they provided an image that was implanted into the Christian psyche, as can be seen an illustration of a fool and the devil in consort in Appendix F. The Book of Revelation, amongst other apocalyptic literature, emphasises the role of the Antichrist in Christian eschatology. The Antichrist is the embodiment of all evil who, according to the New Testament, Jesus will face at his second coming. It could be argued that the image of the Antichrist andhis followers share some similarities with Lokias represented in the Prose Edda. Academics can merely speculate on Snorri’s intentions,drawing parallels such as Loki’s monstrous children described in the Gylfagginng, and their destinies. [121]The parallels between the main characteristics include: physical possession, tempting people to sin, accusing sinners, having an evil host and being at constant warfare with the gods. [122] It can be plainly seen that Loki possessed many of these features. Although he always maintains a corporal form, it could be argued that shape-shifting between different personasis a form of possession; for example,by taking the form of an old woman, Loki is able to coax Frigg into telling him which wood had not given an oath not to harm Baldr.[123]Carolyn Larrington comments that the purpose of Lokasenna was to illustrate the immoral and sinful nature of the gods, at the same time as Loki passes judgement on them with numerous comments such as: ‘Be silent, Freyja, I know all about you; you aren’t free of faults: of the Æsir and the elves, who are in here, each one has been your lover.’ [124]The New Testament also emphasises the constant and pervasive presence of evil, the imminence of the apocalypse and the idea that the kingdom of Satan could only be stopped by the second coming of Christ. Many academics have argued that the death of Baldr is representative of the death of Christ. E.O.G. Turville argues that Loki’s role in Baldr’s death is a key illustration of Christian influences on Norse mythology.[125]The death of Baldr is seen as a turning point in the Norse cosmos, not onlybecause it introduces death into the universe but also because it is the beginning of events which eventually leads to Ragnarök, the final judgement of the gods.[126]Thereligious symbolism of this episode in Norse mythology iskey to the resurrection and redemption of the gods in the eyes of the Christian audience. For this reason it could be argued that including Loki as the murderer in the Prose Edda’s death of Baldr, rather than his exclusion in the earlier text, the Poetic Edda, would indicate that Snorri was deliberately drawing on Old Testament images of the devil to create a demonic figure that would help bring about the resurrection of ‘judgement day’ in line with Biblical teaching. Where the Poetic Edda features the blind god, Höðr, accidentally murdering Baldr, the Prose Edda,written in a Christianised community, conforms to the stereotype of figures of evil and righteousness, light and dark, Satan versusGod, throughout the poems.
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Just as a reminder that everything I've brought up, however weird it seems or sounds, is backed up by lots of academic and scholarly studies, in which I've been immersed for the majority of my life, besides spirituality and art as a holistic totality of a large portion of my daily experience since childhood.

This gets really silly also, where I tried to present these ideas that really no one should care about and it ended up threatening a fake Muslim forum being run out of the CIA headquarters! They took measures to make sure to wipe out whatever I had written on their pages and also lied about me and banned me. They didn't even hide their IP address running right out of HQ! They had a program to pretend to be Muslims but to mislead people and to send them towards Salafi type movements, of which they have strong operations running out of Southeast Asia and the U.K. among other places as part of an international scheme to try to slow the popularity or reach of Islam and to stop and cross pollination of their various programs which includes white supremacist "heathen" movements like "Odinism", which has nothing to do with Odin and even hates Odin, just like their Islamic fraud is in actuality counter-Islamic, a psychological operation and front to manipulate the population, they have no real interest in anything but propagation of their "State" ideology to keep everyone divided and under control by the elites that they work for, and I'm not making up any of this stuff or guessing, it isn't paranoia, they've been using various forums and social media since basically the beginning and did a pretty poor job if even concealing themselves or using proxies and they felt unthreatened by anyone even claiming anything or showing anything about them as they would just get it deleted, ban the person, and try to hack them. If things get serious enough they would make up charges and put people into legal trouble over the pettiest things.

That is aldo why I'm a bit paranoid about anything that might get their evil eye turned towards any writing here, but hopefully they are too busy to care, but they seem to be threatened by even the most minimal things they think might end up messing up their narrative and work, since then they would have to adjust their plans and script to adapt to the changes among the public based on ehat they are aware of and think.

Part of why I even quote things extensively is that they go around changing and deleting things that don't even get archived everywhere, totally disappearing information just like the memory hole in George Orwell's 1984:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_hole

You can bet your bottom dollar that all this annoying gender stuff has been a program used by them and pushed by them for various reasons, down to the new portion of it where they keep suggesting the modern school shooters are trans repeatedly.

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I simply don't see people like this anywhere in real life, yet people like this are all over the social media constantly.

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