Accelerationism

[kFoyauextlH]

I'm usually ok with that but transhumanism has yet to convince me of survival or personal continuation. I do want to live.

[Rubsy]

Well personal continuation will be the first thing to go. I agree, it sounds horrific.

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[kFoyauextlH]

Haha gosh that is so freaky. I feel like some of the people who want this are lost in fantasies which don't even make sense. Like getting excited about things they won't even be present to experience.

[thetrizzard]

I like the move to the left that is in the Guardian article: 

“Capitalism has begun to constrain the productive forces of technology,” they wrote. “[Our version of] accelerationism is the basic belief that these capacities can and should be let loose … repurposed towards common ends … towards an alternative modernity.” 


I would exchange ends for means here, but in essence, the world we were promised is radically different to the one we have in regards to technology. It was supposed to free us up.


Found this which looks interesting...collected writings of Nick Land

Fanged Noumena: Collected Writings 1987-2007 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/095530878X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_jxJfzbR99PE7M

[Rubsy]

http://www.thedarkenlightenment.com/the-dark-enlightenment-by-nick-land/

[kFoyauextlH]

Ooh he put in the word dark, nice!

[atreestump]

The movie The Matrix is heavily influenced by Jean Baudrillard and his book Simulacra and Simulation even appears in the movie as the stash for the hardware Neo sells to his hacker friend near the start of the movie.

I am watching it again today to see how much of this post human language I can spot in it. The main attraction of the movie is Baudrillards' Hyperrealism.

[kFoyauextlH]

You might want to see the two Ghost in a Shell cartoon series also, I think they might also mention Jean Baudrillard directly as well. Especially in the Solid State one. I think they are called Gig 1 and Gig 2, but anyway Japan is wild about these ideas in their cartoons and have the ideas show up repeatedly, Digimon, Serial Experiments Lain, Inception was inspired by Paprika, Sword Art Online. These ideas seem to pop up in games as well which is funny because games are the closest thing we have to seeing how its done without realizing its done or hapoening, games such as Metal Gear Solid try to mix reality and superimpose itself upon it and step out as well as perhaps some horror games, but simulation is a main theme in many, including Infinity Sword or something.

[Rubsy]

Accelerationism, perhaps it is about ultimate vitalism, an anti anything that gets in the way of creation and invention. If Capitalism gets in the way, if democracy gets in the way, it will be overcome. Anything that is a free rider, is anti vital, should/will be stopped. Land argues that Democracy is a free rider on the back of industrialisation, that it is parasitic and therefore anti vital, because most legislation is just limiting legislation. We can see these ideas behind Trumps current conflict with the American judiciary and Democratic system.

[kFoyauextlH]

Yes, if you read those two chunks I posted about Vitalism and the Death Drive recently, you may enjoy the discussion in those as they are related to this topic totally. The first of the chunks is in a thread called "Relevant to all topics by all members" or something. It literally covers aspects of things discussed throughout the forum from the start.