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Cancellation | Hegel

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:48 pm
by atreestump
Judith Butlers' reading of Luce Irigaray says that woman is 'cancelled', she is referring to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aufheben?wprov=sfsi1

Any thoughts?

Re: Cancellation | Hegel

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:17 pm
by kFoyauextlH
" This is in stark contrast to the philosophicalidealism of Hegel, for whom sublation reflects the agency of a specific Geist – a concept that has often been translated as "mind" or "spirit". "

I think in this context you mentioned it is likely that the meaning is something like "the development of woman has been stunted or suspended" as well as "woman a conceptual mind or active agency has become frozen with little to no contributions demonstrating active agency on its part or through demonstrable furthering or growth of the concept or its activities".

Which, if that is what is being said, would be a relatively or mostly true seeming observation.

Woman has been Cancelled, or at a point of its developed, re-subsumed into man, a returning to the rib.

Now we continue to hear about Man devoloping with areas of transhumanism, which is really just Transmanism, but Woman are still stuck back in the Victorian up to the 1970s and that was it.

They were given shovels and mustaches and that was the end of women and their discussion.

They tried to make their way back into our hearts like any neglected child would, through a new generation of crying, but it isn't quite cutting it. Women don't mean a thing, since they were cancelled by being put aside or apart or "uplifted" and singled out. I don't find the concept as contradictory as the Wiki page makes it to be, it seems to make sense. Something pulled out of a river is both uplifted and paused from flowing.

Re: Cancellation | Hegel

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:36 pm
by atreestump

I think in this context you mentioned it is likely that the meaning is something like "the development of woman has been stunted or suspended" as well as "woman a conceptual mind or active agency has become frozen with little to no contributions demonstrating active agency on its part or through demonstrable furthering or growth of the concept or its activities".


Nice! Yes, that's exactly it. Woman does not even become 'one' to become 'other'. Irigaray examined Simone De Beauviours' famous phrase 'One is not born a woman, one becomes a woman'.

Re: Cancellation | Hegel

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:31 am
by kFoyauextlH
Very true and interesting. This actually connects somewhat with my Homophobic Death Drive thread as well actually.