Tharizdun
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" Haha just for fun this is the guy I briefly mentioned in the original post huffparanormal.com/2016/05/the-wonder-box-is-here-my-new-itc-device/
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If anyone is interested in building one of these or something similar, you may hear some interesting.
Oh cool! My little symbol copy pasted, the one with the pitchfork! Could you make that my display picture somehow please?
(while considering the following information of Occult Significance which appears random and was posted due to the pictures appearing copy pasted to me, one may have help with ideas that they may invest useful meanings into based on what a box like those in the posts aboves demonstrates)
As for the other picture that copy pasted I wrote about it with this " To be able to master the dark side of things, one finds then there is no place of escape from the truth, into the light or into the dark, the Sustainer remains ever present in both when they are understood in a certain way.
Often the dark siders and the light siders like to create a dichotomy and division and dualism, making war with each other and pointing fingers about how each is different. My objective in talking about these things is to unite what was severed by utilizing certain terminology and giving it meanings that might be more useful and effective to people.
My user image here has 9 points in their hairstyle. The eyes are red, the heavens are red, the moon is reflecting brightly, there is stuff coming out of the eyes, the tongue is forked and a small fang is revealed on the side, the eyebrows can be seen as a "27" and threshing and harvesting devices as well as the symbols of the Kings of Egypt that they crossed their chest with in symbolism. Standing on a material ground that is green near my character where there is light but darkness and symbols of death all around it, as well as the cross.
Not made in vain haha:
The 9 points growing from the skull and upon the mind/head are the 9 fruits of the holy spirit, among other things. Those are always on my mind and grow from my thinking or head.
The red eyes represent "seeing blood", the blood representing what is under the surface, or insight behind the appearance or material aspects of things.
The red sky represents the whole heavens being full of insight.
The moon reflecting brightly can represent how the light/knowledge of God reflects brightly over everything, giving light in the darkness.
The darkness all around and symbols of death are that we live by Death and the unseen and unknown and progress also by destruction (or else we can't change or move or improve).
It also represents how the immediate is lit and life and is only a small circle of our experience which we see.
The green can represent resting on paradise, that is, to be grounded in serenity through right thinking and right action, thus wherever you are in the darkness you can be present with paradise, as it says "The kingdom of heaven" in your heart.
The stuff coming out of the eyes is dark insight from what is seen, this can potentially be fed on by people or at least seen by them, it is meant to be the product and result of seeing insight. I would've colored it red as well, but it is true that it appears black to people when they see it.
The black clothes with a hood represent the dark exterior, while underneath my character is wearing white. The hood represents my concealment ability but here I have it exposed to reveal the 9 pointed crown that grows from my mind.
Also there is a small house in the back, it is totally black and in the darkness, which can represent our home is the darkness, the place from which we come, and the place to which we return, that being a reference to God and our origin and return.
The hair covers it as well as the moon, which can mean that the points lead to it as well, leading both to the light reflected on the surface of things, and the darkness it speaks of.
The hair also makes the moon appear broken, which can be thought of as breaking through the reflective surfaces and letting the blood pour out making the sky red.
The hair at the bottom end where it connects to the face makes the shape of a bat's head and ears, representing a few things related to the bat, not only the vampirism of "sucking blood" connected to the vampire bat, and its "flying in the darkness" and "residing in the depths", but also the ears representing "hearing supersonic sounds which might not be audible to other creatures" "hearing echoes and reflective sounds that bounce off surfaces" as being a representation of hearing the subtle words of God. The bat has also been associated with being "two things" that is, a rat and a flying creature like a bird. It is also a hunter, seeking the bounty of God. Because of its dual nature, there have been stories of the bat going to the mammals and to the birds and speaking to both of them, sometimes in these stories the bat is not accepted by either, in others the bat may be accepted by both as a uniting between those who fly and those who walk on the Earth, which can be taken as a reference to the more mystically inclined and the more materially inclined or the more flighty in their imagination or conceptual (often associated with the "air" and "flights") and that which is more grounded. The bat hangs upside down when it rests and meditates, and this can be a symbol about how one can find peace in seeing things upside down.
The two points of the ears are pointed above, while the forked tongue is pointed downwards. The ears are receptive to what comes from "above" while the tongue speaks out towards what is "below". The forked tongue representing double meanings, the two opposing ways of seeing things being united in one tongue or language. The tongue and the word "tongue" both represent speaking and languages, and the forked tongue is often associated by people with deception, but in this case it is meant to represent not only the potential for deception but more importantly the uniting of opposites in one "tongue" or linguistic framework.
Fangs can represent a carnivorous or predatory nature, that of a hunting animal, and the vampire fangs represent "blood sucking" as in deriving insight from whatever is hunted down, bitten into, and devoured or "killed", leading it to the "graves" represented behind, and "Death" a reference to our origin of non-being before we were made to Be.
The snake whips out their tongue to test the weather, and similarly speaking the opposites is also for the purpose of testing the environment and situation. It can thus represent testing, while also looking like a "T" and a "Y", for "testing" and asking "why" or questioning things from both angles to get a complete answer regarding the "weather".
The cross appears in the light. The cross I use as a symbol to represent a few things, including the 4 points and the 4 definitions. The 4 points are God, God's Action, which are One (that is to say God is Action, God is One with the Action, which in the Bible is the Word/Command is God). The horizontal bar represents on the left side creation and creation's action, the bar representing the impression of time, as seen through a subject and its action giving the impression of chronological progress, where as God is immediate and active, beyond and above the line of "time" and acting immediately "through" it, as the symbol can be seen to say. It is in the light here because of being seen as part of our immediate circumstances, but there is no time in the darkness, it is just an immediate perception. There are 3 graves which can represent the 3 forms of Death we experience. They are also mentioned in the mainstream Qur'an. That we did not exist "before", that while we live we constantly "die", in the sense of changing, and the death after that where we cease to exist, a grave on the way back home. That being a negative reference to the Trimurti of Hinduism of "Creation" "Sustaining" and "Destruction". They can also represent the 3 gunas which are: tamas (darkness), rajas (activity), and sattva (beingness). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threefold_death
The grave in the darkness, closest to the home, is the one of Shiva, Mahakala, the Destroyer, El Shaddai, and the trident symbol carried by Shiva also is often associated with the 3 gunas. The reason it is closest to home because the total annihilation of information or the material is closest to the essential existence or purity of God without information created by God, so the grave representing the "latter death" can be presented there, the grave of the Sustainer, Vishnu which pervades everywhere can be the one nearest to the light or most apparent and immediate and experienced most often and most closely, and the death before creation being placed between the darkness and the light.
Also the bat image appearing as an illusion created by the edge of the hair on my head gives an illusion of the whole face being the image of a bat, and bats are often considered frightening or ugly, squeeking creatures to shew away as well as hypocrites in stories where their double nature is taken as hypocrisy, so there is a faint impression of that in my forward presentation if one looses focus, but when they look carefully there really is no such thing and it is just an optical illusion created by the exterior hairline tip, "the most superficial sort of thing" that gives the illusion of a bat or a hypocrite." and my name is iscariot there so also this " Hello! Thank you for making this forum, and I hope that many fruitful and informative posts are made here as it progresses. Here is a song I really like:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R8tRKIiAII
and another one I like
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzVjZu4fl4o
Some information which may be interesting regarding my username here (which was chosen for obvious reasons too):
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQp4gh9Li8U
Iscariot is said by some to mean "Man of Murder", a "Hireling", an Assassin. In a metaphorical interpretation, murder or killing is the Death and Destruction of the Ego, which cleanses away the concealing shell and fog of the material/bodily distractions (as in decomposition) and allows what is within to see clearly as the shell falls away. Iscariot has at times been suggested in association with the "Sicarii" a band of Jewish Assassins which occurred in a period of History where they were fighting as terrorists against the Romans "They were one of the earliest forms of an organized assassination society or cloak and daggers, predating the Middle Eastern assassins and Japanese ninjas by centuries."
"The Latin word sicarii translates to "dagger-wielders", from the root secare Latin for "to slice"; in Roman legal Latin it is the standard plural form of the term for a murderer, or for putting a murderer on trial (see e.g. the Lex Cornelia de Sicariis et Veneficiis)[6] during that period of legal Latin." This can have the metaphorical meaning of "slicing" through the lies to the jugular or life-artery of the issue. The word Saxon is also associated with "dagger wielding" and can be viewed in various metaphorical ways as an epithet.
"c. 1200, from Late Latin Saxonem (nominative Saxo; also source of French Saxon, Spanish Sajon, Italian Sassone), usually found in plural Saxones, from a Germanic source (Old English Seaxe, Old High German Sahsun, German Sachse "Saxon"), with a possible literal sense of "swordsmen" (compare Old English seax, Old Frisian, Old Norse sax "knife, short sword, dagger," Old High German Saxnot, name of a war-god), from Proto-Germanic *sahsam "knife," from PIE *sek- "to cut" (see section (n.)). "
Ashtar or in South Arabian Attar or Athar, and was considered the Lord of the Morning Star, but the word Athar itself seems to refer to a Chief, and the association with the Morning Star (which is Venus, but known as the Morning Star in the morning and the Evening Star in the evening, and had names like Lucifer in Latin associated with it) likely due to the appearance of Venus as the "star" or luminary most bright in the sky so their "Leader". In any case, the concept of Ashtar (in Demonology, Ashtaroth) can be taken as a positive connotation for oneself (and the Semitic Kings such as David, and Jesus were known as the Morning Star in the Bible for example as well as others), but also as a name for God.
This sort of free adoption of epithets for God was tolerated by Solomon according to the Bible (who is also associated with Medieval Demonology) but was discouraged strongly by the Jewish people and others who did not always view these titles as YHWH or El Elyon.
"Fifth, the word derives from one of the Aramaic roots סכר or סגר. This would mean "to deliver," based on the LXX rendering of Isaiah 19:4a—a theory advanced by J. Alfred Morin.[39]
Finally, the epithet could be associated with the manner of Judas' death, i.e., hanging. This would mean Iscariot derives from a kind of Greek-Aramaic hybrid: אִסְכַּרְיוּתָא, Iskarioutha, "chokiness" or "constriction." "
The Hangman is an important symbol in association with Odin, which is also tied in association with Attar, since both were related to storms and weather, considered the Chief, and also were associated with death, and Death by Hanging was the very sacred sort of symbol for Odin, associated with enlightenment as well as many other things like being selected by Odin and led by Odin as in a collar and leash for the noose, a "constraining" of the path to make things narrow and be guided and pulled in the right direction and to attain the acknowledgment of Death after the death of the Ego. The Morning Star had been associated with Death and War and Chiefdom as a symbol because it would set in the sky, seemed to be associated with war phenomenon to the people as well as death, and was the brightest luminary in the sky among the stars (who by others at times were all considered "Elohim" in their own right, and God in the Bible is known as the "Father/Pater of the Stars").
This understanding can give a richness to interpreting things, though many of these associations being made are being made to give a certain meaning which may have a beneficial influence. The term Iscariot has long been associated with treachery and betrayal, and this has also been associated with Odin and Ishtar as well as Ashtar-Chemosh, the God of Moab, all of whom would seem to favor the people for a while and then turn on them such as the tides of war or weather, all these being a metaphor ultimately for the fickle nature of Reality which the Aztecs called Teotl.
In the ancient Akkadian world, the term Attar became associated as "The God of Death" whereas in Southern Arabia it was the term for the Chief among the powers. Lucifer means "Light Bearing" and as a metaphorical term can be viewed positively as well, whereas Light is what allows one to see and makes things visible, thus associated with knowledge as well as manifestation such as making things come into existence in the experience of people.
Death is strongly associated with "Fate" or "Destiny", and this luminary was looked to among others in an attempt to predict what was believed to be the course of events guided by a causal chain or immediate control which was not in the hands of the people but where the hands of the people worked in harmony with everything else to bring about this greater complex thread of events (thus associated often with weaving).
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzgaSG_JH_U
In the end, Judas was said to have hung, a final death of the character who has also been theorized as the one who "delivers" due to delivering over Jesus to the people who were to "fulfill the destined prophecy" related to the final salvation in Christian concepts."Hello! Thank you for making this forum, and I hope that many fruitful and informative posts are made here as it progresses. Here is a song I really like:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R8tRKIiAII
and another one I like
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzVjZu4fl4o
Some information which may be interesting regarding my username here (which was chosen for obvious reasons too):
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQp4gh9Li8U
Iscariot is said by some to mean "Man of Murder", a "Hireling", an Assassin. In a metaphorical interpretation, murder or killing is the Death and Destruction of the Ego, which cleanses away the concealing shell and fog of the material/bodily distractions (as in decomposition) and allows what is within to see clearly as the shell falls away. Iscariot has at times been suggested in association with the "Sicarii" a band of Jewish Assassins which occurred in a period of History where they were fighting as terrorists against the Romans "They were one of the earliest forms of an organized assassination society or cloak and daggers, predating the Middle Eastern assassins and Japanese ninjas by centuries."
"The Latin word sicarii translates to "dagger-wielders", from the root secare Latin for "to slice"; in Roman legal Latin it is the standard plural form of the term for a murderer, or for putting a murderer on trial (see e.g. the Lex Cornelia de Sicariis et Veneficiis)[6] during that period of legal Latin." This can have the metaphorical meaning of "slicing" through the lies to the jugular or life-artery of the issue. The word Saxon is also associated with "dagger wielding" and can be viewed in various metaphorical ways as an epithet.
"c. 1200, from Late Latin Saxonem (nominative Saxo; also source of French Saxon, Spanish Sajon, Italian Sassone), usually found in plural Saxones, from a Germanic source (Old English Seaxe, Old High German Sahsun, German Sachse "Saxon"), with a possible literal sense of "swordsmen" (compare Old English seax, Old Frisian, Old Norse sax "knife, short sword, dagger," Old High German Saxnot, name of a war-god), from Proto-Germanic *sahsam "knife," from PIE *sek- "to cut" (see section (n.)). "
Iscariot has other associations as well. Many think that it may have to do with being from an area called Keriot in Moab. The Moabites are famous for the worship of Chemosh. Chemosh is called Ashtar or in South Arabian Attar or Athar, and was considered the Lord of the Morning Star, but the word Athar itself seems to refer to a Chief, and the association with the Morning Star (which is Venus, but known as the Morning Star in the morning and the Evening Star in the evening, and had names like Lucifer in Latin associated with it) likely due to the appearance of Venus as the "star" or luminary most bright in the sky so their "Leader". In any case, the concept of Ashtar (in Demonology, Ashtaroth) can be taken as a positive connotation for oneself (and the Semitic Kings such as David, and Jesus were known as the Morning Star in the Bible for example as well as others), but also as a name for God.
This sort of free adoption of epithets for God was tolerated by Solomon according to the Bible (who is also associated with Medieval Demonology) but was discouraged strongly by the Jewish people and others who did not always view these titles as YHWH or El Elyon.
"Fifth, the word derives from one of the Aramaic roots סכר or סגר. This would mean "to deliver," based on the LXX rendering of Isaiah 19:4a—a theory advanced by J. Alfred Morin.[39]
Finally, the epithet could be associated with the manner of Judas' death, i.e., hanging. This would mean Iscariot derives from a kind of Greek-Aramaic hybrid: אִסְכַּרְיוּתָא, Iskarioutha, "chokiness" or "constriction." "
The Hangman is an important symbol in association with Odin, which is also tied in association with Attar, since both were related to storms and weather, considered the Chief, and also were associated with death, and Death by Hanging was the very sacred sort of symbol for Odin, associated with enlightenment as well as many other things like being selected by Odin and led by Odin as in a collar and leash for the noose, a "constraining" of the path to make things narrow and be guided and pulled in the right direction and to attain the acknowledgment of Death after the death of the Ego. The Morning Star had been associated with Death and War and Chiefdom as a symbol because it would set in the sky, seemed to be associated with war phenomenon to the people as well as death, and was the brightest luminary in the sky among the stars (who by others at times were all considered "Elohim" in their own right, and God in the Bible is known as the "Father/Pater of the Stars").
This understanding can give a richness to interpreting things, though many of these associations being made are being made to give a certain meaning which may have a beneficial influence. The term Iscariot has long been associated with treachery and betrayal, and this has also been associated with Odin and Ishtar as well as Ashtar-Chemosh, the God of Moab, all of whom would seem to favor the people for a while and then turn on them such as the tides of war or weather, all these being a metaphor ultimately for the fickle nature of Reality which the Aztecs called Teotl.
In the ancient Akkadian world, the term Attar became associated as "The God of Death" whereas in Southern Arabia it was the term for the Chief among the powers. Lucifer means "Light Bearing" and as a metaphorical term can be viewed positively as well, whereas Light is what allows one to see and makes things visible, thus associated with knowledge as well as manifestation such as making things come into existence in the experience of people.
Death is strongly associated with "Fate" or "Destiny", and this luminary was looked to among others in an attempt to predict what was believed to be the course of events guided by a causal chain or immediate control which was not in the hands of the people but where the hands of the people worked in harmony with everything else to bring about this greater complex thread of events (thus associated often with weaving).
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzgaSG_JH_U
In the end, Judas was said to have hung, a final death of the character who has also been theorized as the one who "delivers" due to delivering over Jesus to the people who were to "fulfill the destined prophecy" related to the final salvation in Christian concepts. "
" Haha just for fun this is the guy I briefly mentioned in the original post huffparanormal.com/2016/05/the-wonder-box-is-here-my-new-itc-device/
iscariot
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iscariot
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Options Edit Post Select Post Deselect Post Report Post Delete Post Back to Top huffparanormal.com/2017/01/testing-my-latest-wonder-box-2017-quick-clip-and-photos/
If anyone is interested in building one of these or something similar, you may hear some interesting.
Oh cool! My little symbol copy pasted, the one with the pitchfork! Could you make that my display picture somehow please?
(while considering the following information of Occult Significance which appears random and was posted due to the pictures appearing copy pasted to me, one may have help with ideas that they may invest useful meanings into based on what a box like those in the posts aboves demonstrates)
As for the other picture that copy pasted I wrote about it with this " To be able to master the dark side of things, one finds then there is no place of escape from the truth, into the light or into the dark, the Sustainer remains ever present in both when they are understood in a certain way.
Often the dark siders and the light siders like to create a dichotomy and division and dualism, making war with each other and pointing fingers about how each is different. My objective in talking about these things is to unite what was severed by utilizing certain terminology and giving it meanings that might be more useful and effective to people.
My user image here has 9 points in their hairstyle. The eyes are red, the heavens are red, the moon is reflecting brightly, there is stuff coming out of the eyes, the tongue is forked and a small fang is revealed on the side, the eyebrows can be seen as a "27" and threshing and harvesting devices as well as the symbols of the Kings of Egypt that they crossed their chest with in symbolism. Standing on a material ground that is green near my character where there is light but darkness and symbols of death all around it, as well as the cross.
Not made in vain haha:
The 9 points growing from the skull and upon the mind/head are the 9 fruits of the holy spirit, among other things. Those are always on my mind and grow from my thinking or head.
The red eyes represent "seeing blood", the blood representing what is under the surface, or insight behind the appearance or material aspects of things.
The red sky represents the whole heavens being full of insight.
The moon reflecting brightly can represent how the light/knowledge of God reflects brightly over everything, giving light in the darkness.
The darkness all around and symbols of death are that we live by Death and the unseen and unknown and progress also by destruction (or else we can't change or move or improve).
It also represents how the immediate is lit and life and is only a small circle of our experience which we see.
The green can represent resting on paradise, that is, to be grounded in serenity through right thinking and right action, thus wherever you are in the darkness you can be present with paradise, as it says "The kingdom of heaven" in your heart.
The stuff coming out of the eyes is dark insight from what is seen, this can potentially be fed on by people or at least seen by them, it is meant to be the product and result of seeing insight. I would've colored it red as well, but it is true that it appears black to people when they see it.
The black clothes with a hood represent the dark exterior, while underneath my character is wearing white. The hood represents my concealment ability but here I have it exposed to reveal the 9 pointed crown that grows from my mind.
Also there is a small house in the back, it is totally black and in the darkness, which can represent our home is the darkness, the place from which we come, and the place to which we return, that being a reference to God and our origin and return.
The hair covers it as well as the moon, which can mean that the points lead to it as well, leading both to the light reflected on the surface of things, and the darkness it speaks of.
The hair also makes the moon appear broken, which can be thought of as breaking through the reflective surfaces and letting the blood pour out making the sky red.
The hair at the bottom end where it connects to the face makes the shape of a bat's head and ears, representing a few things related to the bat, not only the vampirism of "sucking blood" connected to the vampire bat, and its "flying in the darkness" and "residing in the depths", but also the ears representing "hearing supersonic sounds which might not be audible to other creatures" "hearing echoes and reflective sounds that bounce off surfaces" as being a representation of hearing the subtle words of God. The bat has also been associated with being "two things" that is, a rat and a flying creature like a bird. It is also a hunter, seeking the bounty of God. Because of its dual nature, there have been stories of the bat going to the mammals and to the birds and speaking to both of them, sometimes in these stories the bat is not accepted by either, in others the bat may be accepted by both as a uniting between those who fly and those who walk on the Earth, which can be taken as a reference to the more mystically inclined and the more materially inclined or the more flighty in their imagination or conceptual (often associated with the "air" and "flights") and that which is more grounded. The bat hangs upside down when it rests and meditates, and this can be a symbol about how one can find peace in seeing things upside down.
The two points of the ears are pointed above, while the forked tongue is pointed downwards. The ears are receptive to what comes from "above" while the tongue speaks out towards what is "below". The forked tongue representing double meanings, the two opposing ways of seeing things being united in one tongue or language. The tongue and the word "tongue" both represent speaking and languages, and the forked tongue is often associated by people with deception, but in this case it is meant to represent not only the potential for deception but more importantly the uniting of opposites in one "tongue" or linguistic framework.
Fangs can represent a carnivorous or predatory nature, that of a hunting animal, and the vampire fangs represent "blood sucking" as in deriving insight from whatever is hunted down, bitten into, and devoured or "killed", leading it to the "graves" represented behind, and "Death" a reference to our origin of non-being before we were made to Be.
The snake whips out their tongue to test the weather, and similarly speaking the opposites is also for the purpose of testing the environment and situation. It can thus represent testing, while also looking like a "T" and a "Y", for "testing" and asking "why" or questioning things from both angles to get a complete answer regarding the "weather".
The cross appears in the light. The cross I use as a symbol to represent a few things, including the 4 points and the 4 definitions. The 4 points are God, God's Action, which are One (that is to say God is Action, God is One with the Action, which in the Bible is the Word/Command is God). The horizontal bar represents on the left side creation and creation's action, the bar representing the impression of time, as seen through a subject and its action giving the impression of chronological progress, where as God is immediate and active, beyond and above the line of "time" and acting immediately "through" it, as the symbol can be seen to say. It is in the light here because of being seen as part of our immediate circumstances, but there is no time in the darkness, it is just an immediate perception. There are 3 graves which can represent the 3 forms of Death we experience. They are also mentioned in the mainstream Qur'an. That we did not exist "before", that while we live we constantly "die", in the sense of changing, and the death after that where we cease to exist, a grave on the way back home. That being a negative reference to the Trimurti of Hinduism of "Creation" "Sustaining" and "Destruction". They can also represent the 3 gunas which are: tamas (darkness), rajas (activity), and sattva (beingness). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threefold_death
The grave in the darkness, closest to the home, is the one of Shiva, Mahakala, the Destroyer, El Shaddai, and the trident symbol carried by Shiva also is often associated with the 3 gunas. The reason it is closest to home because the total annihilation of information or the material is closest to the essential existence or purity of God without information created by God, so the grave representing the "latter death" can be presented there, the grave of the Sustainer, Vishnu which pervades everywhere can be the one nearest to the light or most apparent and immediate and experienced most often and most closely, and the death before creation being placed between the darkness and the light.
Also the bat image appearing as an illusion created by the edge of the hair on my head gives an illusion of the whole face being the image of a bat, and bats are often considered frightening or ugly, squeeking creatures to shew away as well as hypocrites in stories where their double nature is taken as hypocrisy, so there is a faint impression of that in my forward presentation if one looses focus, but when they look carefully there really is no such thing and it is just an optical illusion created by the exterior hairline tip, "the most superficial sort of thing" that gives the illusion of a bat or a hypocrite." and my name is iscariot there so also this " Hello! Thank you for making this forum, and I hope that many fruitful and informative posts are made here as it progresses. Here is a song I really like:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R8tRKIiAII
and another one I like
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzVjZu4fl4o
Some information which may be interesting regarding my username here (which was chosen for obvious reasons too):
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQp4gh9Li8U
Iscariot is said by some to mean "Man of Murder", a "Hireling", an Assassin. In a metaphorical interpretation, murder or killing is the Death and Destruction of the Ego, which cleanses away the concealing shell and fog of the material/bodily distractions (as in decomposition) and allows what is within to see clearly as the shell falls away. Iscariot has at times been suggested in association with the "Sicarii" a band of Jewish Assassins which occurred in a period of History where they were fighting as terrorists against the Romans "They were one of the earliest forms of an organized assassination society or cloak and daggers, predating the Middle Eastern assassins and Japanese ninjas by centuries."
"The Latin word sicarii translates to "dagger-wielders", from the root secare Latin for "to slice"; in Roman legal Latin it is the standard plural form of the term for a murderer, or for putting a murderer on trial (see e.g. the Lex Cornelia de Sicariis et Veneficiis)[6] during that period of legal Latin." This can have the metaphorical meaning of "slicing" through the lies to the jugular or life-artery of the issue. The word Saxon is also associated with "dagger wielding" and can be viewed in various metaphorical ways as an epithet.
"c. 1200, from Late Latin Saxonem (nominative Saxo; also source of French Saxon, Spanish Sajon, Italian Sassone), usually found in plural Saxones, from a Germanic source (Old English Seaxe, Old High German Sahsun, German Sachse "Saxon"), with a possible literal sense of "swordsmen" (compare Old English seax, Old Frisian, Old Norse sax "knife, short sword, dagger," Old High German Saxnot, name of a war-god), from Proto-Germanic *sahsam "knife," from PIE *sek- "to cut" (see section (n.)). "
Ashtar or in South Arabian Attar or Athar, and was considered the Lord of the Morning Star, but the word Athar itself seems to refer to a Chief, and the association with the Morning Star (which is Venus, but known as the Morning Star in the morning and the Evening Star in the evening, and had names like Lucifer in Latin associated with it) likely due to the appearance of Venus as the "star" or luminary most bright in the sky so their "Leader". In any case, the concept of Ashtar (in Demonology, Ashtaroth) can be taken as a positive connotation for oneself (and the Semitic Kings such as David, and Jesus were known as the Morning Star in the Bible for example as well as others), but also as a name for God.
This sort of free adoption of epithets for God was tolerated by Solomon according to the Bible (who is also associated with Medieval Demonology) but was discouraged strongly by the Jewish people and others who did not always view these titles as YHWH or El Elyon.
"Fifth, the word derives from one of the Aramaic roots סכר or סגר. This would mean "to deliver," based on the LXX rendering of Isaiah 19:4a—a theory advanced by J. Alfred Morin.[39]
Finally, the epithet could be associated with the manner of Judas' death, i.e., hanging. This would mean Iscariot derives from a kind of Greek-Aramaic hybrid: אִסְכַּרְיוּתָא, Iskarioutha, "chokiness" or "constriction." "
The Hangman is an important symbol in association with Odin, which is also tied in association with Attar, since both were related to storms and weather, considered the Chief, and also were associated with death, and Death by Hanging was the very sacred sort of symbol for Odin, associated with enlightenment as well as many other things like being selected by Odin and led by Odin as in a collar and leash for the noose, a "constraining" of the path to make things narrow and be guided and pulled in the right direction and to attain the acknowledgment of Death after the death of the Ego. The Morning Star had been associated with Death and War and Chiefdom as a symbol because it would set in the sky, seemed to be associated with war phenomenon to the people as well as death, and was the brightest luminary in the sky among the stars (who by others at times were all considered "Elohim" in their own right, and God in the Bible is known as the "Father/Pater of the Stars").
This understanding can give a richness to interpreting things, though many of these associations being made are being made to give a certain meaning which may have a beneficial influence. The term Iscariot has long been associated with treachery and betrayal, and this has also been associated with Odin and Ishtar as well as Ashtar-Chemosh, the God of Moab, all of whom would seem to favor the people for a while and then turn on them such as the tides of war or weather, all these being a metaphor ultimately for the fickle nature of Reality which the Aztecs called Teotl.
In the ancient Akkadian world, the term Attar became associated as "The God of Death" whereas in Southern Arabia it was the term for the Chief among the powers. Lucifer means "Light Bearing" and as a metaphorical term can be viewed positively as well, whereas Light is what allows one to see and makes things visible, thus associated with knowledge as well as manifestation such as making things come into existence in the experience of people.
Death is strongly associated with "Fate" or "Destiny", and this luminary was looked to among others in an attempt to predict what was believed to be the course of events guided by a causal chain or immediate control which was not in the hands of the people but where the hands of the people worked in harmony with everything else to bring about this greater complex thread of events (thus associated often with weaving).
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Iscariot is said by some to mean "Man of Murder", a "Hireling", an Assassin. In a metaphorical interpretation, murder or killing is the Death and Destruction of the Ego, which cleanses away the concealing shell and fog of the material/bodily distractions (as in decomposition) and allows what is within to see clearly as the shell falls away. Iscariot has at times been suggested in association with the "Sicarii" a band of Jewish Assassins which occurred in a period of History where they were fighting as terrorists against the Romans "They were one of the earliest forms of an organized assassination society or cloak and daggers, predating the Middle Eastern assassins and Japanese ninjas by centuries."
"The Latin word sicarii translates to "dagger-wielders", from the root secare Latin for "to slice"; in Roman legal Latin it is the standard plural form of the term for a murderer, or for putting a murderer on trial (see e.g. the Lex Cornelia de Sicariis et Veneficiis)[6] during that period of legal Latin." This can have the metaphorical meaning of "slicing" through the lies to the jugular or life-artery of the issue. The word Saxon is also associated with "dagger wielding" and can be viewed in various metaphorical ways as an epithet.
"c. 1200, from Late Latin Saxonem (nominative Saxo; also source of French Saxon, Spanish Sajon, Italian Sassone), usually found in plural Saxones, from a Germanic source (Old English Seaxe, Old High German Sahsun, German Sachse "Saxon"), with a possible literal sense of "swordsmen" (compare Old English seax, Old Frisian, Old Norse sax "knife, short sword, dagger," Old High German Saxnot, name of a war-god), from Proto-Germanic *sahsam "knife," from PIE *sek- "to cut" (see section (n.)). "
Iscariot has other associations as well. Many think that it may have to do with being from an area called Keriot in Moab. The Moabites are famous for the worship of Chemosh. Chemosh is called Ashtar or in South Arabian Attar or Athar, and was considered the Lord of the Morning Star, but the word Athar itself seems to refer to a Chief, and the association with the Morning Star (which is Venus, but known as the Morning Star in the morning and the Evening Star in the evening, and had names like Lucifer in Latin associated with it) likely due to the appearance of Venus as the "star" or luminary most bright in the sky so their "Leader". In any case, the concept of Ashtar (in Demonology, Ashtaroth) can be taken as a positive connotation for oneself (and the Semitic Kings such as David, and Jesus were known as the Morning Star in the Bible for example as well as others), but also as a name for God.
This sort of free adoption of epithets for God was tolerated by Solomon according to the Bible (who is also associated with Medieval Demonology) but was discouraged strongly by the Jewish people and others who did not always view these titles as YHWH or El Elyon.
"Fifth, the word derives from one of the Aramaic roots סכר or סגר. This would mean "to deliver," based on the LXX rendering of Isaiah 19:4a—a theory advanced by J. Alfred Morin.[39]
Finally, the epithet could be associated with the manner of Judas' death, i.e., hanging. This would mean Iscariot derives from a kind of Greek-Aramaic hybrid: אִסְכַּרְיוּתָא, Iskarioutha, "chokiness" or "constriction." "
The Hangman is an important symbol in association with Odin, which is also tied in association with Attar, since both were related to storms and weather, considered the Chief, and also were associated with death, and Death by Hanging was the very sacred sort of symbol for Odin, associated with enlightenment as well as many other things like being selected by Odin and led by Odin as in a collar and leash for the noose, a "constraining" of the path to make things narrow and be guided and pulled in the right direction and to attain the acknowledgment of Death after the death of the Ego. The Morning Star had been associated with Death and War and Chiefdom as a symbol because it would set in the sky, seemed to be associated with war phenomenon to the people as well as death, and was the brightest luminary in the sky among the stars (who by others at times were all considered "Elohim" in their own right, and God in the Bible is known as the "Father/Pater of the Stars").
This understanding can give a richness to interpreting things, though many of these associations being made are being made to give a certain meaning which may have a beneficial influence. The term Iscariot has long been associated with treachery and betrayal, and this has also been associated with Odin and Ishtar as well as Ashtar-Chemosh, the God of Moab, all of whom would seem to favor the people for a while and then turn on them such as the tides of war or weather, all these being a metaphor ultimately for the fickle nature of Reality which the Aztecs called Teotl.
In the ancient Akkadian world, the term Attar became associated as "The God of Death" whereas in Southern Arabia it was the term for the Chief among the powers. Lucifer means "Light Bearing" and as a metaphorical term can be viewed positively as well, whereas Light is what allows one to see and makes things visible, thus associated with knowledge as well as manifestation such as making things come into existence in the experience of people.
Death is strongly associated with "Fate" or "Destiny", and this luminary was looked to among others in an attempt to predict what was believed to be the course of events guided by a causal chain or immediate control which was not in the hands of the people but where the hands of the people worked in harmony with everything else to bring about this greater complex thread of events (thus associated often with weaving).
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzgaSG_JH_U
In the end, Judas was said to have hung, a final death of the character who has also been theorized as the one who "delivers" due to delivering over Jesus to the people who were to "fulfill the destined prophecy" related to the final salvation in Christian concepts. "
