IndieAgora

Feel free to talk about your ideal world.

In My Ideal World:

You are only Free so far as you are Just and Merciful and Utterly Good as deemed by me. A slave to my ethics.

Otherwise a Slave, or dead.

Those are the only options in my ideal world. Anyone good is given the most freedoms. Anyone who is bad is increasingly restricted and utterly enslaved and limited to the point of being brutally forced if necessary, otherwise killed if they do not wish to be good or to cooperate.

Everyone is also completely exposed, with no ability to hide what they do, they are always seen.

All life is to support me and my continued existence and if necessary I am to become the automated spirit of this efficient prison world, myself trapped to infantile laws constructed from immature thinking. The laws don't apply to me though, phew.

The world would be obsessed with kindness to one another and beauty, even if these things are only vain conventions. The slaves are kept alive as resources but are able to escape their slave status by not doing evil for some time and working it off in penance. If they repeat crimes they are more likely to be executed.

Women are of higher value to me than men, so a man who commits crimes is likely to be treated more harshly than a woman since she still can provide eye candy or whatever entertainment value.

Men would have to be very endearing indeed to overcome the automatic ten points off for being men.

Children are produced for the purpose of continuing to harvest polite courteous people or slaves if death has not been resolved or slaves become uncooperative due to being alive too long and no longer wanting to be part of my world.

This world seems utterly abandoned and far too free to get away with being impolite and downright criminally vicious.

In my world, there is no law or religion but mine, no alternatives, no political parties or hidden meetings or signs or anything going on which can not be seen or known.

Human slaves would largely be unneeded as robots would take care of most things, and slavery would just be the mercy of "lets see if your body can be put to good work if your mind can not be".

"Neither your mind or your body can be put to any use, so you shall die".
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The reason I make these sorts of posts are multi-faceted, one is supposed to really think about it as if it is their own thought and reach the part of themselves that may really like it but has been taught to feel averse to it due to political incorrectness or suppression efforts which makes thesecsame ideas sublimated into other sorts of movements and choices or bad decisions and actions really because they end up being acted out subconsciously instead.
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"After Heavenly Father presented this plan,Lucifer volunteered to save mankind by taking away man's agency. Nobody would be able to fail the test and so, Lucifer claimed, everyone would be able to return to the presence of Heavenly Father. As recompense for the implementation of his plan, Lucifer demanded that the power and the glory which Heavenly Father possessed be transferred to him, effectively making him "God." However, as Lucifer alone would have complete freedom of choice under his plan, no other spirit could achieve exaltation. Heavenly Father countered that this would make the test worthless, and knew Lucifer sought only power and glory for himself - as a result he rejected Lucifer's plan.Enraged, Lucifer chose to rebel against Heavenly Father and rallied to him "a third part" of Heavenly Father's children who also preferred Lucifer's plan. The two factions warred, and Lucifer and his followers were cast out of Heaven; Lucifer became Satan, and those who followed him became fallen(also referred to as sons of perdition), and hisservants.[sup][6][/sup][sup][original research?][/sup] They were denied the right to have their own physical bodies (and, consequently, the ability to procreate) but were not affected by the "veil". Latter-Day Saints believe that Satan and his servants have since sought to undo or counteract Heavenly Father's plan by tempting mortal individuals to evil actions, gaining power over them and their bodies, and by attempting to restrict their freedom of choice by whatever means possible. "

I will be honest here, I thought reading to title this subject would be more constructive - that isn't to say I don't like your ideals; but they are rather fiction than fact and more self serving that society. 

But with rewards for doing good and punishment for doing bad (slavery, labour, etc) could be of benefit for a utopian world - ifff we implemented it into real life situation. 

My ideal world - good pussy and good buds ( both kinds ;) ).

I might explore and edit this in the future when I have time to describe it. 

Nonetheless good read. (Y)

Don't leave it to me to say anything useful, please contribute a version of what you could imagine the most useful comments would be and say. Seriously. I was just getting the topic started. Take it to all the good places!

I shall continue from my last reply. 

Essentially in my utopian world, I would have it be somewhat communal and democratic along the lines of a social welfare state; where essential services are payed for via taxes (education, health, public transport, etc). I would like to see individuality to be on the lower scale instead of championing the idea of competitiveness among each other, instead we should be working together for a common goal to further progress a sustainable future. 

That leads to my main point, where instead of profiting on everything we should provide almost every essential service for free. Free electricity from green energy, and lower hourly work weeks - just enough to keep society functioning and more time to explore your highest joy i.e/ your passions. So that we aren't feeling absolutely fucked after a 40-hour working week; where you get pissed off at your family member for having a birthday in your free time - lol. 

Government wise - it would have to be some sort of anarchistic avenue. The way I see it is panels of differing ideals (like parties) but more of them and widespread and integrated within society. Sort of like the republic in Star Wars. Although 'stateless' there are still 'government' bodies to ensure the continuity of societies progression.

Economically - like before profiting off one another has to go if we want to create a better world. Essentially money not being able to do the talking, and maybe integrating what you proposed where ethical actions promote you higher in society and evil ones denote you.

I haven't really structured this and let it free flow with my ideals. Hope you got the picture tho. :D

These are great ideas, thank you so much for sharing themand please share more and various aspects and investigations into your thoughys in this thread and any other of my threads which are made for the purpose of exploring great ideas like those you have mentioned here.

These are great ideas, thank you so much for sharing themand please share more and various aspects and investigations into your thoughys in this thread and any other of my threads which are made for the purpose of exploring great ideas like those you have mentioned here.


I most certainly will! I saw on the PoD CasT thread that I made that you aim to share you art anonymously - which is something that radiates with me also. It removes personal biases and presents a blank tablet for the audience to base their judgments purely off the inputted information/ prompt. Beautiful in my eyes, and I too aim for that hence all of my 'activism' is mainly done online - not for the response of a revolution but for the individual that reads my work to think and reflect on it; helping add to their own journey. 

As Foucault once said (along the lines of this) - 'It isn't about sparking a revolution, it is about providing tools for the left so that once needed precedent of thought constructs already exist to go off'.

Awesome. Yeah I wanted it to be so anonymous that people don't even suspect its a group, that its as if it is just found stuff and the author or authors or creators aren't available to take credit even, which is a little concerning if someone claims authorship so I may have to make it seem falsely dated too or something. I just don't want people bothering me about it but also don't like that they might mislead people concerning it and may also want to profit from it. In that case I am not really sure how to go about it to protect materials and maintain rights, profit somehow, while getting it dispersed most widely regardless of profit, while not becoming a target because of it and being able to walk around freely even if its a film starring me, which might require being disguised.

​​​Also how to get help and do big projects without people saying I did it. Its like so many issues, and feels like I might have to compromise somewhere. All because the sorts of things I want to say or talk about I don't want to have to defend or be ridiculed for.

Awesome. Yeah I wanted it to be so anonymous that people don't even suspect its a group, that its as if it is just found stuff and the author or authors or creators aren't available to take credit even, which is a little concerning if someone claims authorship so I may have to make it seem falsely dated too or something. I just don't want people bothering me about it but also don't like that they might mislead people concerning it and may also want to profit from it. In that case I am not really sure how to go about it to protect materials and maintain rights, profit somehow, while getting it dispersed most widely regardless of profit, while not becoming a target because of it and being able to walk around freely even if its a film starring me, which might require being disguised.

​​​Also how to get help and do big projects without people saying I did it. Its like so many issues, and feels like I might have to compromise somewhere. All because the sorts of things I want to say or talk about I don't want to have to defend or be ridiculed for.



Yeah most definitely will prove challenging. The way I would approach it would be to have an alias for certain projects which claims ownership but only ever be published for certain tributes. 

Much how the owner of Bitcoin released the open source for the concept the simply vanished off the face of the earth, only to post an additional 3 or 4 times over the space of 3 years - been years since anyone has heard from him.

Thats a bit scary too, I want to be safe as well, I wonder if not being known makes it easier for bad people to harm one over their work.

Who knows. A silent vindicator.