Is the media something that is manipulated, or is media inherently manipulative?
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2025 12:38 pm
by atreestump
@whisper @thetrizzard @kfoyauextlh
Re: Media Manipulation
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2025 7:57 am
by kFoyauextlH
Maybe there is a better place for this video, my apologies, but this is about a social media post being used to imprison an "opposition leader".
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We've never interacted with organic, "true news" for the most part, except through people telling us stories of things they experienced. This widely broadcast stuff seems to be propaganda by The State authorities and other "Lords" like the wealthy corporations funding the stations and curating what is considered news or not, all of which is ultimately meant to work in their favor or they simply don't mention it.
I have witnessed first hand complete lies, seemingly generated by agents of The State on behalf of The State or on orders from them, such as making up a Tsunami event that I was present for which never occurred, and inventing damages that weren't even there, in order to get funds and funding, basically stealing money from other parts of the government.
What we know as News mainly, even when it is "independent" but still commenting on whatever the big cabal has brought up and determined shall be the news, is not the same as the real news, which is unlikely to be known or reported, but instead seems to be whatever these powers want you to know for some reason, and it is never meant to do anything damaging to whoever is behind it. That is among one of the most paranoid ways of looking at it, but all I see is people I despise, who despise me, overtaking every platform and medium, even through second and third hand salesmen trying to tell me about the same "issues at hand", and most people should be very sick of it all, even if it will cost millions of lives not to know or hear about anything, no one seems to be able to actually do anything much. It seems moreso that the News tries to pretend that things like popular opinions and votes actually do impact anything and aren't completely just fraudulent, made up, deceiving people into thinking they somehow were left to do these things and are to blame for whatever corporations and wealthy people are deciding and claiming was the fault of ordinary people.
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This is also why, as an experiment that will hopefully work and has been working on multiple levels to combat these things mentioned in the video at the top, I rely on obscure pre-fabticated collections of information that seem unrelated to anything directly and are either forgotten or old and irrelevant seeming or entirely fictional and very strongly and purposefully seen as fictional, but with an important element of being "canon", to use such in a way that puts them to work towards extracting "truth" that differs from the propaganda and advertising campaigns, and demoralizing and efforts to stun people and busy them in anxieties which are like viewing a mirror that just shows loved ones being r*ped and m*tilated constantly by some villains that are deeply enjoying their crimes against us and those we care for. There is practically no option but retreating from such a device, and hoping for the end of all such wicked sorceries. They also repeatedly make "precious" this poison that is destabilizing endless households and families and interactions through listening to the voice of The State and Authority and "science says" and "wikipedia says", and "it was just reported".
The LDS Church, called by many a "cult", was attacked by a member of it who was also a member of the military hierarchy. The LDS is extremely tightly organized and hierarchal and the truest form of "American" Christianity, made in America, concerned with American things, with an American story, even though the Evangelicals and Televangelists and Megachurches and Prosperity Teachings are seen as the Most American, the LDS serms to me to be the even more truly American in every way, including the details of their theology and origination from an American where the other stems from movements that had started elsewhere, but even Joseph Smith was a Protestant and a Free Mason. The theology of the Prosperity types is more like groups that have popped up in other places though, but the Hyper-Literal Materialist Theology of the LDS, which most members gloss over and don't think about much, is imbued with much more American particular material in comparison to the Evangelical movements which still rely much more heavily on the Bible as compared to adding authoritative scriptures.
These two types and groups are at odds with each other, but a large portion of LDS people are in corporations and leading big businesses and are part of the government and intelligence community, and there seem to be less who are genuinely Evangelicals in the loop, but the Evangelicals are used by these groups as gullible pawns, even though they are also conspiracy minded.
One group is more vague than the other, and a lot less structured overall, and are probably much closer to the impression of Early Christians given through the Letters attributed to Saul of Tarsus, known as The Apostle Paul than the LDS who seem more like the Catholic Church at a certain point of their organizing.
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Two days before the massacre at a Mormon church in Michigan, the mother of suspected shooter Thomas Jacob Sanford made a cryptic post on Facebook about someone in her life who refused to take "accountability" and who always "twists everything".
That is according to reports from The New York Post and The Daily Mail, which identified the now-deleted Facebook profile as belonging to Sanford's mother Brenda.
It's not clear who her post was referring to and the words were not originally hers. Instead they seem to have been part of a copy-pasted meme that has been circulating on social media since at least August.
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Now the thing that claimed he was a member of the LDS at some point can't be found, and instead the stories are that he supposedly ranted to a politician who visited his home about Mormons randomly lol. None of this is believable really when they also just did this:
It specifically says "Anti-Christian" and this event coincides with it, very similar to suspicions people had about this:
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Shortly after 9 p.m. on 27 February 1933, the Reichstag building was reported as on fire when a Berlin fire station received an alarm call,[12] and firefighters were dispatched. Despite their efforts, most of the building was gutted.[13] By 11:30 p.m., the fire was put out. The firefighters and police inspected the ruins and found 20 bundles of flammable material (firelighters) unburned lying about. At the time the fire was reported, Hitler was having dinner with Joseph Goebbels at Goebbels' apartment in Berlin. When Goebbels received an urgent phone call informing him of the fire, he regarded it as a "tall tale" at first and hung up. Only after the second call did he report the news to Hitler.[14] Both left Goebbels' apartment and arrived by car at the Reichstag, just as the fire was being put out. They were met at the site by Hermann Göring, Interior Minister of Prussia, who told Hitler, "This is communist outrage! One of the communist culprits has been arrested." Hitler called the fire a "sign from God" and claimed it was a signal meant to mark the beginning of a communist revolt. The next day, Hitler reported that "this act of incendiarism is the most monstrous act of terrorism carried out by Bolshevism in Germany". The Vossische Zeitung newspaper warned its readers that "the government is of the opinion that the situation is such that a danger to the state and nation existed and still exists".[15]
Walter Gempp was head of the Berlin fire department at the time of the Reichstag fire on 27 February 1933, personally directing the operations at the incident.[16] On 25 March he was dismissed for presenting evidence that suggested Nazi involvement in the fire.[17] Gempp asserted that there had been a delay in notifying the fire brigade and that he had been forbidden from making full use of the resources at his disposal. In 1937, Gempp was arrested for abuse of office. Despite his appeal, he was imprisoned. Gempp was strangled and killed in prison on 2 May 1939.[18]
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" The day after the fire, at Hitler's request, President Hindenburg signed the Reichstag Fire Decree into law by using Article 48 of the Weimar Constitution. The Reichstag Fire Decree suspended most civil liberties in Germany, including habeas corpus, freedom of expression, freedom of the press, the right of free association and public assembly, and the secrecy of the post and telephone.[19] These rights were not reinstated during Nazi reign. The decree was used by the Nazis to ban publications not considered friendly to the Nazi cause. Despite the fact that Marinus van der Lubbe claimed to have acted alone in the Reichstag fire, Hitler, after having obtained his emergency powers, announced that it was the start of a wider communist effort to take over Germany. Nazi Party newspapers then published this fabricated story.[19] This sent the German population into a panic and isolated the communists further among the civilians; additionally, thousands of communists were imprisoned in the days following the fire (including leaders of the Communist Party of Germany) on the charge that the Party was preparing to stage a putsch. Speaking to Rudolph Diels about communists during the Reichstag fire, Hitler said "These sub-humans do not understand how the people stand at our side. In their mouse-holes, out of which they now want to come, of course they hear nothing of the cheering of the masses."[20] With communist electoral participation also suppressed (the communists previously polled 17% of the vote), the Nazis were able to increase their share of the vote in the 5 March 1933 Reichstag elections from 33% to 44%.[21] This gave the Nazis and their allies, the German National People's Party (who won 8% of the vote), a majority of 52% in the Reichstag.[21]
While the Nazis emerged with a majority, they fell short of their goal, which was to win 50–55% of the vote that year.[21] The Nazis thought that this would make it difficult to achieve their next goal, passage of the Enabling Act giving Hitler the right to rule by decree, which required a two-thirds majority.[21] However, several important factors weighed in the Nazis' favour, mainly the continued suppression of the Communist Party and the Nazis' ability to capitalize on national security concerns. Moreover, some deputies of the Social Democratic Party (the only party that would vote against the Enabling Act) were prevented from taking their seats in the Reichstag, due to arrests and intimidation by the Nazi SA. As a result, the Social Democratic Party would be under-represented in the final vote tally. The Enabling Act passed easily on 23 March 1933, with the support of the right-wing German National People's Party, the Centre Party, and several fragmented middle-class parties. The measure went into force on 24 March, effectively making Hitler dictator of Germany.[22]
The Kroll Opera House, sitting across the Königsplatz from the burned-out Reichstag building, functioned as the Reichstag's venue for the remaining 12 years of the Third Reich's existence.[23]
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NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THIS AND IT IS REALLY REALLY BAD! NSPM-7 IS NOT AN EXECUTIVE ORDER. It is a NATIONAL SECURITY DIRECTIVE. Remember the one that Bush wrote to create the NSA black sites during the first Iraq war? Trump has turned the entire weight of the Justice Department and every Joint Terrorism Task Force AGAINST the American people. To prosecute them BEFORE they have committed a crime. For their thoughts and opinions. Minority Report is real and with the Palantir software in use by DHS, inevitable. Excerpt of article by Ken Klippenstein:
"In NSPM-7, “Countering Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence,” President Trump directs the Justice Department, the FBI, and other national security agencies and departments to fight his version of political violence in America, retooling a network of Joint Terrorism Task Forces to focus on “leftist” political violence in America. This vast counterterrorism army, made up of federal, state, and local agents would, as Trump aide Stephen Miller said, form “the central hub of that effort.”
NSPM-7 directs a new national strategy to “disrupt” any individual or groups “that foment political violence,” including “before they result in violent political acts.”
In other words, they’re targeting pre-crime, to reference Minority Report.
The Trump administration isn’t only targeting organizations or groups but even individuals and “entities” whom NSPM-7 says can be identified by any of the following “indicia” (indicators) of violence: anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, anti-Christianity, support for the overthrow of the United States Government, extremism on migration, extremism on race, extremism on gender hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family, hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on religion, and hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on morality.
“The United States requires a national strategy to investigate and disrupt networks, entities, and organizations that foment political violence so that law enforcement can intervene in criminal conspiracies before they result in violent political acts,” the directive states (emphasis mine)."
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Expands Definition of Political Violence and Domestic Terrorist Acts
NSPM-7 describes an “anti-fascist lie” comprising “organized campaigns of targeted intimidation, radicalization, threats, and violence designed to silence opposing speech, limit political activity, change or direct policy outcomes, and prevent the functioning of a democratic society,” including:
Doxing, swatting, and coordinated harassment campaigns
Organized civil disorder and riot-related activity
The breadth of this definition means organizations engaged in protest support, civil rights advocacy, or politically sensitive work may face scrutiny, if their activities are characterized as enabling or motivating such acts.
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desertrat75
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Just to be clear, "NSPM-7" isn't a "classification" under any federal statute or order. It is the title of a presidential order called a National Security Presidential Memorandum and it's number is 7. No one is "labeled NPSM-7".
But yeah, it's fucked up. Here is the offending passage, from the standpoint of a non-believer that simply doesn't want to be ruled by "traditional Christian values".
Common threads animating this violent conduct include anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, and anti-Christianity; support for the overthrow of the United States Government; extremism on migration, race, and gender; and hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family, religion, and morality.
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Look at these, for lack of a much harsher and more precisely vicious term, c*nts. They don't believe at all in any spiritual impact regarding what they send their support towards:
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@thegoldstandardvideo
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AOC went around the country with Bernie, refused to talk about genocide in Palestine. She supports Israel. She's a good liar. Part of the corruption. They all need to go
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@diegoaccorsi1107
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She doesn’t take aipac money. That alone makes her different.
@moisesdelamora4023
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This is the wrong attitude. People who didnt vote kamala over trump because she was pro-isreal ended up regretting that. Surprise surprise. We shouldn't let perfect ideals get in the way of moving towards a clearly better path/candidate. Stop being petty. AOC for the most part has a beautiful record as far as most politicians go.
@diegoaccorsi1107
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@moisesdelamora4023agreed. There’s that famous quote, I can agree with a political leader 8 out of 10 times and it is fine. But if I agree with them 10/10 times I’m in a cult.
I know which fights to fight, and fighting against AOC in this moment isn’t it. I can agree that AOC needs to be more open in her denouncement of the Israel government, but I will embrace the fact that she refuses to take aipac money, which would make her bought and paid for. I can work with that.
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Not taking Aipac money doesn't mean much when she voted to send weapons to people using the weapons the way they are, like to m*ss*cre ch*ldr*n, these crooks can receive money by other channels. She is two faced, her votes are what counts and she voted to send those villainous w*r cr*m*n*ls more weapons! Anyone who supports her now has blood on their hands and is complicit, just another Nasz! Don't choose "the lesser evil", choose none of them if they are all rotten, at least you won't have helped into power someone using that power to send weapons to g*n*c*d*l m*ni*cs!
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These people are hideously disgusting. They are political agents trying to convince people to ignore people who have used their political power to vote for horrible things that no one wants, right in the midst of no one wanting it. Then they send out these manipulators with these specific sorts of names to tell people "be reasonable, she only voted ch*ld r*pe and ch*ld m*tilation once! Do we forgive others who support such crimes or facilitate them? This "lesser evil" bullsh*t is how evil stays around and even wins! No one should be forgiven once they have shown what they are and who they are and have misused their power like that!
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She voted to send Iz weapons in the midst of their using them for g*n*c*d* and sh***ing children in the g*n*t*ls for sport! You are all lost if you think something like that should be overlooked because "I can't run, I won't win, and she is the best we've got here in Hell". If you support someone helping this most heinous stuff in the world today, then you are part of it, the blood is on your hands too.
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The people are made to feel so dependent on these others who are just wealthy humans who can afford to pursue these things while others are forced to be too busy working themselves to death for nothing!
The News Media has taken over everywhere so that children now are watching these political manipulators and feeling pressured into teams instead of enjoying any cartoons meant to entertainingly teach them and reinforce moral thinking and decision making.
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I don't know which thread this should be in, because there are a few options of where it could go among threads we have already:
These "new" people, disgust and infuriate me so much. I hate them with a passion, and I suspect they are not people who are even from mostly English speaking household and I think they are mentally probably severely messed up, because what the hell is this total sh*t? It is like the new Tower Of Babel. English has no meaning to them or a very light meaning so it is mostly just sounds.