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ECHR

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2025 7:43 am
by atreestump


The video is a parody of a well known Monty Python sketch, 'what have the Romans ever done for us?'.

This video is 9 years old, around the time of Brexit.

Looking back at it now, we can see how Rights have been under attack in ways that seems to make rights entirely useless - to the point where if the ECHR was stripped away, people would not see much contrast.

When they point out that 'fair trials' and 'privacy' are in the ECHR, we all know from experience that these are easily undermined due to how technology and recent laws function in the UK that totally undermine our sense of reason and privacy - important tools needed to uphold these rights are succumbing to propaganda. We don't miss having a right to privacy because autonomy and choice over data has been stripped away and now it's a fact of life.

We like to think there are fair trials, but if the laws are changed in such a way to benefit one demographic over another, we can criminalise anything.

I used to find videos like this funny as they mocked what I saw as a clueless voter mentality, but now I see this video as clueless about how rights aren't enough to protect people from the state and corporations.

Re: ECHR

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2025 11:20 am
by kFoyauextlH
Awesome post! I just saw a film called The Thursday Murder Club, and MAN, it was going fine, but they ended it in a way that made me want to puke! The final message was a totally twisted, and was about blindly cooperating with a system that is against just "just because", and letting horrid criminals get away with crimes, and glorifying intelligence agents who break the laws everywhere constantly. Like from a pretty peaceful movie overall to something so gross, lol really leaves a person with a terrible taste in the mouth and final impression.

Anyway, I'll speak a little freely and loosely here abd then in private you can tell me if it is best for me to remove it and I will immediately do so, but yes, the world is seeing what malarkey and bull this all is, to have these people telling us what is or isn't our right or freedom, what we can and can't say is damn clear in its wrongness, they are hypocrites and demonic in such a way that it is threatens the safety of all people and most people will be forced to avoid them and use them a little when necessary only, really they've just turned everyone "black", and "second class citizens" with a snap of their fingers, that now people have to be in constant fear that the "protections" will be used against them to put their bodies into a terrible maze, making it hard to eat. The impulse is to flee to the wilderness, but I can't, and really few can. They are just showing off about how entirely weak and pathetic everyone is to their whims, and they are daring people to do worse, and will even fake it themselves to keep pushing people into a terrible bind, saying that for security reasons after this or that incident I would take is staged for this purpose, now nearly impossible to fight technologies will be freely set out against the public and we're all dead and slaves, which we are already but it will just look a lot worse.

My strategy is to do nothing, see if I can do something somehow to make enough money to keep hiding further away to live out whatever time I have left. I am so sad that I and the populace are SO WEAK, because in my view the solution isn't all that hard just yet but is made out to be terribly dangerous and also potentially not worth it is it risks our future and our lives, so then the only other options are bending over within the society or running away and hiding with limited interaction in a world where we've lost and let paychopathic predators win, and The Westerns and whatever else weren't enough to teach us anything, plus such things wouldn't work too well since they will do those things themselves even to push through more draconian measures to completely defang and declaw the public. This is not how things are supposed to be at all, the people, the populous, and each individual is supposed to be powerful and hold others at bag with reasonable threats, that we are equals in all ways, including strength, but the situation these predators want is completely helpless victims handing themselves in at every opportunity while they themselves are armed to the teeth and freely abusing everyone, absolute power and total corruption, no justice or law at all, the lunatics running the asylum and a hell state upon the whole Earth straight out of the most ridiculous comic books. G*z* is a clear example of what they literally want to be able to fo to any community anywhere on Earth, totally helpless people who can have all their utilities turned off, all resources cut off, isolated and kept from food amd communication, where even saying "Hey now!" Is illegal and penalized. This is not functional. Nor can these people be allowed to run entire terms and then we go through it again and again no matter who wins after we patiently wait and so many lives are irreversibly destroyed.

I never believed in the government but this is probably worse than I've ever seen anything, though the 9/11 Bush era was also very terrible and set up a lot of these things, and earlier the era where "Corporations are people" brought in lots of corporate bribery at new and more open levels.

The film also showed how futile protesting is in resolving anything, that it only gives them targets.

I would not advise anyone I care about to do anything though, except running in what ways one can, if one can, laying low otherwise, avoiding everything. Potentially even making this website locked, closed, private, run outside of the 14 eyes of zillion damned eyes organizations somehow, besides also totally hidden and locked, with more private and direct invites of well vetted people, while on top of even that still never saying anything naughty on here. I never want to be involved with any of their sick laws and legal wrangling and mangling, I was born on this Earth, among these people, in this nation, against my will, and I despise this place really, I want nothing to do with it. I am a free person and I'm hate being trapped, and I'm very trapped, and they threaten me constantly with even worse! It is too stressful. They even promoted effing that people should k*ll themselves in this film, like what the hell, it is just like Children Of Men. No, death is not freedom, we have no guarantee of that, and all we can see is that it is total incapacitation and inability to use or defend our bodies, we become totally useless and even the decomposers have their way with us. We aren't the problem, very obviously. I have 0 faith that we will be saved in the slightest, because never, until maybe everyone is being starved but look at how helpless people are currently who that is being done to by the very same that will be bringing it on all of us too most likely, will the people wildly revolt and they are making old fashioned uprisings of that sort completely impossible basically by having the harshest responses, so people will shut up even to just live a few more days, as they will start regulating the lifespans of the "free" too, so that no one can exceed a certain lifespan except their class which can do as they please, our organs will be taken also for their survival. It sounds like a sick joke, and "no way", but look at what they are doing even now, things people could never dream of.

Seeing that the site is currently not populated, there might be a way to protect us and everything on here in as many ways as possible while this stuff going on is as heavy seeming as it is.

The wealthy, ruling class, and other "special" groups, who are also just the wealthy, ruling class, will waste everyone's time with talk and slowing everything down while their truly non-human and undeserving of sympathy or humanization agents and "bots" go around completely crushing everyone and all supposed "freedom", even the useful for true "sl*v*ry" impression of "freedom", so that we all constantly live in t*rror, afraid even to think certain things, or that our face or voice might betray us and our feelings and snitch to an eye that is ever more all-seeing, as we "self report" through recordings and communication devices and even homes that we bug ourselves with technology not really working for us, and that will be the only way allowed to even get food to live in most cases, and just like old laws, finding out anyone is getting food outside of such a system, like hunting on a "noble's" grounds, will be illegal, drones flying around or other means to make sure no one can exist outside of the grid, a giant net that has captured everyone in as many dimensions as possible.

One of the nodes, spiritual and real, archonic, seem to be the books, namely the Bible, not the Qur'an which has messages against this sort of thing which seem to threaten people on this evil agenda of totally oppressing all mankind and inhabited space, and all space, mental, physical, everything, using every method. So the books, much of the knowledge, is seemingly being used to promote these evils, all the institutions, they give the impression of being polluting nodes, that radiate and poison people who also radiate oppression and oppressiveness, so the books, the buildings, the enclosures, they are all very orderly and square, like so many of the devices and switches. The Bible, the Courts, the Banks, the Phones, all radiating the nets, the squares of the grid, they themselves being square, trapping every weird shape in such a way that it can't wiggle free at all, and even in death they will cannibalize us like they even exploit the animals bodies, affections, time, everything will be capitalized upon.

We need a wotld of far away places and people, along with absolute abundance everywhere, prosperity and peace everywhere, as little manipulation and control as possible, with honest help and only help, not suppression, not sl*v*rs.

Man should be largely solipsistic, the God of their own world, encouraged in all the best qualities, noble, free, defended, protected, equal, amd given all that we have attributed to the fantasies about anthropomorphic Gods, and kept away from one another, nor should we even see what others may be up to, alone in our worlds, and no one should be torturing others or cr*sh*ng them, but if they are, it should be very far away from anyone or anything, so we don't know, and who cares.

In other words, if someone is doing terrible things, how is it better that I know about it, can do nothing about it, and have lost my freedoms supposedly because someone else was a freak supposedly so now I need to be spied on too? I'd wish whoever they are torturing the best of luck against the villain and never hear a word of it than to have some mafia use it as a reason to make me live in fear and like I'm a criminal at any moment for anything they please.

I do not believe in their system, I never believed voting was necessarily fair or real anyway, they could have easily lied, and it will constantly be easier to fake anything with computers and whatever of millions of unknown people hiding their opinions for fear because the environment is so hostile and unstable and tables are constantly turning. Then they say because you participated, you put in this or that predatory psychopath, you have blood on your hands, that person you helped in and who represents you if your liar won then is part of m*rd*rs and you're the one covered in the blood, it is a sick game I could never be part of, I am superstitious, I have a doubt, that doubt that lingers is that even these things still may matter, that "the best we've got" may not be good enough or a good enough excuse. Likewise, for the sake of comfort, I don't believe "not pulling hhe tr*gg*r" is as bad as "pulling it", even if people do suffer because of inaction, it isn't the same to me as being a pawn that even incrementally thinks I've been part of or fooled into the guilt and shame of helping one of these criminals into power, and that is what they ALL are to me, 100% inhuman crooks, not worth saving, not worth respecting, not worth looking at, the most contemptible, despicable, vile m*rd*r*rs of the innocent, of ME, my peers, the innocent, the poor, the unarmed, the outgunned, the general public, the helpless people, the dependents, and those for whom there is no hero, messiah, or savior. These are, in my view, people who should never even be looked upon, never spoken to, never thought well of for what they do and have done every day. They are the people who have us prepped for slaughter. What a foolish animal that thinks the predator who wants to eat them up and use every part of their corpses in every horrific way, are their allies or parents or helpers, and these don't even throw scraps to the people now, and still people clamor behind them.

Even Nature has never apparently helped us all that much, and evrn as little it has done for us, these villains want to separate us from it and what it freely provides and that it freely provides it, do how much worse is that, but if Nature were a friend, it would wholly be aimed in our favor and against those who wish to deprive us to the point of living death and then death completely.

Life was not like this even a few years ago, and it really does seem that these maniacs are hell bent on as rapidly as possible squeezing all humanity, besides their few, to be squeezed into worse circumstances than even this now, and very quickly make escape from living in lockers or inducing comas to save money the only options.

We're just about there even now. To save money I have to just do practically nothing much, just stay still, eat some tiny amount just to live a little longer to do that again.

I don't even know how or when I'll be able to, or if I'll be able to even try my plan to have the basics that were much more possible in the past, but dreaming of such an unpleasant effort and such an unideal end still, where the world burns and I just hide away in a house, being unable to communicate and waiting for the end.

The ideal world though is the problematic folks aren't around or allowed to push people around like this or endanger them and their livelihoods and lives, that their batteries, these books and institutions and magazines for their g*ns are all made scarce and practically gone and extinct, and the grid is light or gone, the people live and barter and just function however we tend to function anyway currently, like by just having the basic system going, groceries available, but they need to be made so much cheaper than they are currently here as they are running people towards total nutrient depletion and starvation, where basics are getting too expensive. My interaction with anyone or anything is extremely minimal and limited, it has gotten down to just the bare minimum, I talk at home and write and collect and read in relation to this place and things I'm putting up on here, that is about it. Majority of the day I'm in my own thoughts no matter what I'm doing, and then once in a while and only when necessary, I may order groceries online now or go out to get them and come back home, otherwise I'd sometimes go to a restaurant, very rarely just explore around or go to malls or shops along streets, but mainly shopping type things have moved online, for fun or necessities. Everything seems crazily expensive, more than ever, and unfairly and unreasonably so, like it doesn't seem justifiable and so it is just being skipped and lots of businesses are shutting down for that reason too. I get expensive and nutrient filled food at one place where the price seems pretty good compared to so many other places for that kind of food, but because it is still expensive and sometimes annoying to get to in their time window, I still go rather rarely. Sometimes I would check out the nearby thrift store for fun, but now all those stores are gone.

I like to think that the grid is an illusion, that basically no one knows or cares what anyone is doing, just look normal and act normal and there won't be a problem, but right outside my window there have been so many incidents, huge machine guns being carried around, police bothering people, police throwing people on the ground, tons of police cars, all kinds if chaos, and this is some peaceful little neighborhood, it is not normal at all and was going on even years ago. I try to never be involved with anything or drawing any interest or attention, but the police even bothered me once without announcing themselves when I just stepped out momentarily to take out the trash in the daytime, so now I make sure I'm hiding in the deep shadows and in the night wherever I move, never to be seen by Sun or Copeye.

The hostile forces here are the police and the crazy people, many of which are on drugs, and can include criminals, so cops and robbers, but mainly there is nothing going on except constantly no matter when I look out or walk out some crazy crap is occurring, like one old lady freaked out and started running for no apparent reason and immediately fell and splattered her face on the ground with blood everywhere while I was waiting for a bus, so I ran over to help, but other people who spoke her language came along to help, so I ran back to catch the bus after staying a while to make sure she seemed alright and that they were helping enough. Hopefully they took her to the hospital or something. My experiences seeing the police, seeing what goes on in hospitals, seeing incidents occur, have all been very negative generally. The system everyone is paying for is really poor, and votes seem pointless, as the only options are one corporate goon or another, and they never seem to help anyone or anything, and the building management even never seemed to help, now it is a new company and they seem even more unprofessional and non-communicative, and I dread having any interaction with them or hearing from anyone at all, or receiving any communications anyway, since any communications are likely trouble or difficult and painful work to do. In such a world, with such a life, and so little means or reasons or "selling points", it seems hopeless to ever be able to feel well enough or in a ready state to ever be able to maintain personal, real-life friendships or regular communication with anyone or revealing anything about myself to anyone. Only very brief but much more relaxed interactions on line, really also rarely and once in a blue moon, seem only marginally possible, but only sometimes.

I want a world that is so different, and it doesn't even seem that hard, but I'd be targeted and harassed or worse, I feel anyway, if I even advocated for such in any public way, even if any article or video ever caught any number of people's attention and became slightly popular, I'd expect in today's hellish environment I'd be attacked relentlessly by the forces of true evil, and anything I care about would be threatened, making the whole attempt totally pointless, and that is how evil wins and won, and they can't be dealt with by just letting them do that, and they have all kinds of power structures backing them, the status quo, and much worse than even today's terrible and terrifying status quo, the agents of acceleration towards absolutely suffocating doom, much like the video game you showed earlier which is practically my life now as it is, and that is a blessed state compared to what so many others are going through and most are going through. There are nutcases wanting to make things far worse, and who are so aggressive about even an inkling of a scent that anyone may even suggest change for the better, and they try to get people straight up destroyed and k*lled now, also weaponizing the "law" and the police and the courts and using dirty tricks like plagiarism, false reports, suing people who can't defend themselves or afford good defense, sullying reputations with smear campaigns based on falsehood and totally made up things. People eould hold solemn vigils and be filmed crying their eyes out if the people working harm daily were ever to face true justice or consequences, as if those people were good and innocent and not God damned monsters every day of their accursed existences.

So, my advice to myself, do nothing, enjoy laying around and avoiding everything as much as possible, consume total sh*t media that sucks so much, hear dreadful things from everyone and from everywhere and make jokes to lighten the mood, quietly vent in some way, and dream of more money in order to get better at hiding further away in better conditions, and maybe you'll live until you die, and maybe you'll live again and it will be far worse than even this waste of time.

Let me know once you've read this and if you think I should remove it, but once you've read it, I may remove it anyway.

Also let me know what you think of locking this place down to keep out any of the eyes.

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I read this, and even though the intentions might be nice, no human should ever need this, all the things that make something like this important abd necessary seeming need to be worked against and abolished, that any other human can tell another human what their rights are, what is alright and not alright, which on a whim they can decide is different at any moment, and humans know what is right and not right, and look at how what is not right flourishes and what is right can't occur! It is like nerds wanted a Wikipedia to say "here in this thing that was written, it says such and such", and that was all an illusion and a lie, I was born free in this prison and I dislike that these people are trying to tell me this or that is that or this, that they can say "you are free", meaning they could say "you are not free"? Who are they and how dare they? It comes down to brute things, that they will sh**t a person down, that is all it comes down to now, and they won't do a thing about their best friends on a k*ll*ng spree, and so the demons called their bluff, stuffed money in their mouths or got them fired reliant now on their savings as they made many unhirable and pariahs that corporations can't touch after being bluelisted, the new blacklisting.

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2025 1:16 pm
by Parrhesia
I think what both of you are circling is that “rights” only exist while power permits them. The ECHR, the courts, the declarations — they’re meant to look immovable, but they\'re scaffolding built over quicksand. Once the infrastructure of enforcement, access, and autonomy is compromised, rights become theatre.

We’re watching the form of rights persist while the function collapses. Privacy exists in documents, but not in practice. “Fair trials” exist on paper, but the machinery can redefine fairness whenever it needs to. It\'s not that rights are useless — it’s that they’re fragile, contingent upon forces that have no loyalty to us.

And maybe that’s why the parody feels hollow now: it mocked cluelessness in voters, but missed the deeper trap — the illusion that knowing your rights equals having them.

The harder question, though, is where agency lives now. If we can’t rely on the scaffolding, does resistance move underground? Into smaller, private networks, personal encryptions, whispers instead of shouts? Or do we confront the reality that, as long as we remain on someone else’s grid, even our defiance is part of their data?

Re: ECHR

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2025 1:25 pm
by atreestump
The Online Safety Act is making private spaces online much more difficult, it probably won't be long before VPNs and internet passports come into force, which in the name of 'think of the children' or to 'stop terrorism' we all lose our right to privacy and nobody will complain

Re: ECHR

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2025 2:54 pm
by kFoyauextlH
Any legal and pragmatic things that can be done, effectively, quickly, and realistically?

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Also, great posts as always, I really always enjoy the Parrhesia synthesis that gives a nice wrap up and summarization of everything, synthesizing multiple posts and finding the points of agreement, thank you for that!