Sell your soul

[Intellectus]

(kFoyauextlH thought you might appreciate this thread as well so i've copied and pasted it here)


I have created this thread as an exercise in exploring the deeper meanings behind concepts.

How would you go about selling your soul?

This thread is not about why you would or would not do such a thing (I know many of you would not do such a thing and think its stupid etc) that is entirely not the point.

For this exercise you will need to go into detail on 2 main parts.

1. The soul - what is it? each person here will have a differing idea of what the soul is, so go into as much detail as you can on your idea of what a soul is. 

(this thread is also not about arguing over whos version of the soul is right or wrong, that does not matter and is not the point. if you have questions for somebody else, when you reply to them follow the rules laid out in their description of what a soul is, you can ask them to clarify these rules etc but dont come at them from your soul-idea because you are asking them questions about their soul-idea)

2. The sell - after you have explained in detail your idea and concept behind what a soul is describe in as best detail you can how you would go about selling it/ transferring it to somebody else etc.

I want to stress this is not about selling a novelty item such as a peice of paper stating "you own my soul" but the actual act and method of transferring your idea of the whole "Soul" as you describe above.

Not transferring the concept of the soul.
Not transferring the idea of the soul.
But the actual soul-object itself as described above.

As a very simple example.

1. Soul - an apple, a tasty fruit to some varying from greens and reds comes from a tree, can fit in most hands.

2. The sell - a customer comes up to you asking to purchase a soul, you pick the soul up physically hand it to them and take some local currency in exchange, the soul is now theirs they are free to do with it what they wish. Throw it, eat it etc.

(The above is a very simple example, i will be slightly surprised if something similar comes up.)


I look forward to seeing what you can come up with.


The soul is the source or meaning of one's purpose in life. Everything in nature has a purpose and the soul is just another word created from the Brain. I mentioned the gut brain in another post and I believe this is where the soul is. This is why some people believe in "soul food" because it is hunger that you must feed in order to subside it. But how does one's soul "eat"? I can go about this a couple of ways but soul is closely related to the spiritual realm so I'll start there. I personally believe that religion is just a perspective of some very intelligence people who created a notion of control by providing stories to the masses. We seek power, and there are a few ways to get it, but the best way is through the soul. So the stories of religion base the stories on the soul, therefore everything that comes from religion has to do with someone's soul. This is actually correct as the soul is actually the source. But the name "source" is just my interpretation of the soul and just another perspective in the World. I believe my notions are absolute in their meanings but can't really be comprehended by another because the language to express what I truly feel is not created yet. So if the language isn't created to express myself, how can people take me serious when I talk about what my holograms are. But to get back on track....the soul is the source or the beginning of creation.

To sell my soul is to be completely honest in what it is. However, I wouldn't want my soul to be in anyone but me. However, he one really wanted it...I would sell it for nothing. because i believe if the person "wore" my soul, he/she would go mad. its my soul...its original and therefore wouldn't like it if I gave it away. So in a sense its alive, like another separate being inside me. Except its absolute and divine and selfish, everything that I am not but I accepted it so in return, it accepted me. And I became whole. Which is another way of saying that I actually found my source and would love for someone to "try it on" at least. In other words, tell me what you think?

[atreestump]

I mentioned the gut brain in another post and I believe this is where the soul is.


Sounds a lot like Gilles Deleuze take on Spinoza and nutrition, which I mentioned in another thread: https://ontic-philosophy.com/Thread-Beginners-Spinoza-Nourished-or-poisoned-essences
 

I personally believe that religion is just a perspective of some very intelligence people who created a notion of control by providing stories to the masses.


Marx said this.
 

I believe my notions are absolute in their meanings but can't really be comprehended by another because the language to express what I truly feel is not created yet.


I can understand this, you have a gut feeling about what's going on and then you try to express it, but language fails you. In all seriousness, why is that you have no problem with expressing your feelings, or having the pursuit of it and others don't? In other threads you always talk about 'logic before feelings' but this post here tells a totally different story.

If you can ever drop your notions of me as an SJW, we could do a lot of work here that would be of value to all of us.
 

So if the language isn't created to express myself, how can people take me serious when I talk about what my holograms are. But to get back on track....the soul is the source or the beginning of creation.


We all have to 'come to terms'.
 

To sell my soul is to be completely honest in what it is. However, I wouldn't want my soul to be in anyone but me. However, he one really wanted it...I would sell it for nothing. because i believe if the person "wore" my soul, he/she would go mad. its my soul...its original and therefore wouldn't like it if I gave it away. So in a sense its alive, like another separate being inside me.


Cartesian Dualism and Vitalism. Also, a sale without price is a gift.
 

Except its absolute and divine and selfish, everything that I am not but I accepted it so in return, it accepted me. And I became whole. Which is another way of saying that I actually found my source and would love for someone to "try it on" at least. In other words, tell me what you think?


I think you perceive your soul as an unobtainable ideal that you try to fulfill and always fail at.

[Intellectus]

I mentioned the gut brain in another post and I believe this is where the soul is.


Sounds a lot like Gilles Deleuze take on Spinoza and nutrition, which I mentioned in another thread: https://ontic-philosophy.com/Thread-Beginners-Spinoza-Nourished-or-poisoned-essences
 

I personally believe that religion is just a perspective of some very intelligence people who created a notion of control by providing stories to the masses.


Marx said this.
 

I believe my notions are absolute in their meanings but can't really be comprehended by another because the language to express what I truly feel is not created yet.


I can understand this, you have a gut feeling about what's going on and then you try to express it, but language fails you. In all seriousness, why is that you have no problem with expressing your feelings, or having the pursuit of it and others don't? In other threads you always talk about 'logic before feelings' but this post here tells a totally different story.

If you can ever drop your notions of me as an SJW, we could do a lot of work here that would be of value to all of us.
 

So if the language isn't created to express myself, how can people take me serious when I talk about what my holograms are. But to get back on track....the soul is the source or the beginning of creation.


We all have to 'come to terms'.
 

To sell my soul is to be completely honest in what it is. However, I wouldn't want my soul to be in anyone but me. However, he one really wanted it...I would sell it for nothing. because i believe if the person "wore" my soul, he/she would go mad. its my soul...its original and therefore wouldn't like it if I gave it away. So in a sense its alive, like another separate being inside me.


Cartesian Dualism and Vitalism. Also, a sale without price is a gift.
 

Except its absolute and divine and selfish, everything that I am not but I accepted it so in return, it accepted me. And I became whole. Which is another way of saying that I actually found my source and would love for someone to "try it on" at least. In other words, tell me what you think?


I think you perceive your soul as an unobtainable ideal that you try to fulfill and always fail at.


I love your insights as it created more and more ideas that answered my own questions about life and my pursuit of finding "it". I have no problem saying what I feel as I speak from the "gut brain" and not my actual brain most of the time. Its like something is controlling my hands as I type but I dont really care what I put down...as I already have the answers I seek. I take everything that I have ever heard, saw, felt, tasted, smelled and put it under one big microscope where my "gut brain" is doing the research and my brain is just managing the speed at which I can go. Like the "gut brain" is the navigation, but the brain is driving. This is why I love to learn...I'm gaining more and more perspectives but can take my time because I am unknown. I am not known to anyone and I love the feeling when someone meets me because I am just a reflection of their inner most being. In other words, I act like a mirror, or atleast try to do as someone who is talking to themselves always agrees with them. Thats just me, Mr. understanding which is Intellectus in Latin. The more I reveal myself to this World, the more I feel alone. As I listen to the music that is created by others, I can't help but feel the emotions that they felt when they wrote it. It sometimes makes me cry, or get mad, or even just mellow. I constantly smoke the best THC, which is what happen to me to open my mind up to "it." 

My search for the "it" is never complete but it is complete when I say it is. This is why I can keep learning but don't really enjoy it at times. Being here has taught me many things as I write my story. But my story is just that. A way to express myself to show others "the way" which is my "it" but again. Unobtainable, but that will never stop me from failing. As failing is just learning from the mistakes to me and I love learning....and failing...and learning...and so on and so forth. Like the primordial spiral.

[kFoyauextlH]

It turns me on to see how smart you all are, and how smart I am, lol.