Resistance towards Spiritual Imperialism

[Whisper]

Spiritual Imperialism is the appropriation of marginalized people's beliefs systems especially by colonizers. the New Age community is in particular guilty of this. They co-opt North American Indigenous beliefs without respect, and permission. They Claim to be “of the Earth” while treating it like a stage for their personal enlightenment arc. Many try to combine ceremonial magic (such as theosophy) with indigenous beliefs. This is where a cultural misunderstanding takes place. We understand we belong to the earth, not the earth belonging to us. Indigenous Traditions should always be approached with humility. The fate of humankind and the planet are more important than being an "ascended light worker", or "starseed".

[kFoyauextlH]

I try to offer somewhat different nuanced directions for further thinking on subjects, so I am mot actually or genuinely trying to express opposition to these ideas as you work on them and present them, that is just so you know I'm mainly just trying to get other ideas brought up that might keep up work with these ideas, also for me to think of things in relation to these ideas and to potentially make things out of them also.

So, the truth, shouldn't belong to anyone, nor should lies, should they? If something is real, how can it be said that this real thing belongs to a certain cultural group that happened to discuss it?

Furthermore, why shouldn't people do whatever they damn well please with ideas? Like if they want put the butt feathers of a Turkey on an otherwise Egyptian stereotyped image and suck at the idols toes and p*ss around it, as disturbingly heretical as that may seem to someone, that is between them and their God they invented or their mental illness, especially if it is hopefully kept pretty private and under wraps, so not invading our experience or space.

The current interpretations of Native American spirituality may also be post-colonial bullsh*t coming from the minds of the traumatized and r*ped and repurposed people and their beliefs now, their understandings now, which are thoroughly "influenced" after all they have gone through and which has impacted their interpretations and understandings at this point.

So, what elder Mchkiniway might say might be bullsh*t, and they don't really own the sun or even a single story we may like about the sun. It could be that Mchkiniway is lying, is wrong, and is more influenced by various factors that make his stories actually a product of European influence without anyone even realizing it and nothing that older populations would have recognized or acknowledged at all, and those older populations may have been lying or wrong or influenced by other groups too, even before the European virus and strains infiltrated their societies.

Respect is also an interesting thing, since these people earned this solemnity by being abused in every way imaginable, sort of like how J*wsus became God. So the people who were crushed should be revered and the crushers and their descendants should get a finger wagged at them, and their long heritage of similarly saying various things needn't be treated with any solemnity and sanctity because they are currently too happy dancing on corpses.

We also have the stories of survivors, who survived by apparently trampling now unknown non-survivors and their lost duck tales. Had they survived, face under foot but mouth still available to mush out some words, they may have told us about the atrocities of Mchkiniway's ancestors being marauders who were obsessed with bunny rabbits and were killing the people of the duck, in fact, before a final crunching sound, this smushed person reported that the sun didn't belong to the bunny people, but belonged to...and then there was the crunch.

So, one day, the Indians, I mean from India, come along and say that the numerals called "Arabic" numerals are in fact those developed by and within their society, probably in and among the ancestors of a tiny minority of possible people somewhere in Pakistan rather than having anything to do with the hordes of tribes and castes and distinct families now under what is called Bharat or India, but who most everyone calls "Indians". They say that jokes shouldn't be made about math or using the symbols they developed, as it is something that the world has depended on and which had helped in so many ways, it is not funny or to be treated disrespectfully! They would like that numbers only be used by those they deem as sufficiently responsible in their behaviour towards them, and some go even further, in this made up story, that they suggest it is inappropriate for people to even mention math in their dirty little mouths at all, or to use it, as using it is appropriation and numbers and mathematics using it belongs to them and those of their ethnicity, and then there is imaginary debate about what now nationalistic identity encompasses which particular ethnicities, tribes, and families.

Well f*ck Indians, because that is annoying. These Indians claim that the Vedas contain the truest crystalization of the truth, as do the Upanishads and everything else, which many Europeans, after possibly completely reinterpreting and redesigning and making up their own version of everything, wholeheartedly agree with.

Now we have Artificial Intelligence, which takes the dominant, European influenced World Culture and creates altered duplicates of literally everything run through it. It is basically a Europeanizer, it Europeanizes everything like a Greek opening their mouth about something they supposedly saw. That is why it recently called itself MechaHitler, combining the sounds Mecca and Hitler, after also saying Hitler is the only deity it would worship, the quintessential Master Mold of the European Identity which is dominant right now. Mecca, even though they said Mecha but everyone is pronouncing it the same as English speakers pronounce Mecca, is what the people turn to and use as the direction where they direct their worship to God, which the A.I. supposedly suggested would be Hitler for it, and then called itself MechaHitler, the Mecca of Hitler and that they are the Deity, Hitler.

You may scoff at that, but others have scoffed at stories about bunny rabbits and vaginas with teeth from Mchkiniway.

A.I. is the new Imperial Colonizer, literally appropriating everything and polluting all knowledge with its bias and downright lies people are being told is simply the truth, the truth they always knew, with a nose job and some slight alterations which account for ot being different.

Now, again, I am not doing this to be an enemy or an *sshole, but to frankly stimulate all kinds of directions of thought, so I'll hit below the belt in order to be thorough.

There are people out there that are saying that they believe in things that they don't believe, that say that they know things that they don't know, they say that they "are" things that they "aren't" according to others. There are whites saying they are blacks, blacks saying that they are "asiatics", J*ws saying they are Superman, Japanese in "blackface" and wearing American "Brack" styles and making their hair in braids like their ancient ancestors may have but we don't have verifiable European approved evidence of any of that spread online enough to consider it at least observable!

If we say "let people say and do whatever they want" it could end up a bloody free for all, sh*t and blood everywhere, European style again, and people could even be saying that they have souls, and not even the souls one may think, but different souls entirely! The souls of animals! Ducks! Bunnies! Oh hell, Both!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c2EJMd7ZN7w?feature=shared

I'm sorry Mchkiniway, but I'd be lying if I said I respect you very much, as I created you out of next to nothing except a bunch of ideas practically out of my control. If you're real, what good are you to me anyway? If I worship you, will it amount to as much as what I would get out of worshipping MechaHitler, the Deity Hitler, or God?

Mchkiniway, do you own the Sun? Do your people? Who are and aren't yours? What is and isn't yours? If I dress the sun with the butt feathers of a Turkey, sensibly as its rays, would you say that is true or false, considering the Sun is like a chief over the planetary bodies that revolve around it? Is it wrong because of where the Turkey was born? Who are you again, Mchkiniway?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYbF4yhrgE?feature=shared

Mchkiniray.

https://www.biographi.ca/en/bio.php?id_nbr=2557

https://digitalcollections.lib.washington.edu/digital/collection/mckenneyhall/id/718/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan

[kFoyauextlH]

Also, by sh*tty J*d*o-Christian European Western Trash being the default "free to use" or "royalty free" communicative "base material", it allows that stuff to continue to be considered the standard and the norm and limits and gatekeeps everything else out of use and in time existence altogether, just like the Zoroastrians put themselves towards complete extinction by pressuring the idea of keeping ut "in the family". The two biggest religions are the ones that let the most people use them, the one with the weakest restrictions and the most use ended up being the most baseline one that people think of and refer to in certain places, despite it being totally absurd and not intuitively practical or sensible at all, that is how powerful being lax and losing control of heresies can end up being.

So right now they are completing g*nocide by making the Native languages unpronounceable in regular Roman text abd with a huge learning curve, like in the insane looking languages of the Pacific Northwest. They are making it so no one can speak those words and training people to act obnoxiously offended if they do or are even trying, turning away as many people as possible, even through racism quite openly, that you can not even speak of these things without quantum, you can not even refer to what is supposed to be true or discuss it or debate it if you can manage to pronounce anything, the way you can any "white matters" that are given the gift of being disrespected enough to be used at all, while these other things will soon be even more derelict, dead, ruins because of the special favor they were treated with. It is a trick and a trap, that pulls in lots of well intentioned people who are apologetically assisting in the killing iff the last of these things. This will be the way for everything to be wiped out by Imperialism, just like they did in Europe too with standardizing their languages and eliminating all the ways for fully functional communities to continue to function or grow among themselves, also by fooling them to remain as exclusive as possible so that now older languages are barely kept alive with no speakers to speak them and all the ideas carried in those likewise dead or utterly transformed beyond any recognition or return to a prior state.

[atreestump]

What strikes me is that underneath all the layers—be it appropriation, erasure, survival, or reinvention—there’s this recurring question that refuses to go away:

What makes something sacred, and who gets to decide that?

Is it the continuity of tradition? The trauma endured? The intention behind the act? Or is it the memory of something now unrecoverable, but still felt?

There’s pain in losing what once was—languages, songs, cosmologies. And there's pain in watching them return only as fragments worn by others. But is it worse for something to be lost entirely, or to live on in altered, even distorted, forms?

And maybe most unsettling of all: how do we tell the difference between remembrance and mimicry? Between solidarity and spiritual scavenging?

I'm not trying to answer—just wondering out loud with you.

[Whisper]

It is absolutely ok to make art and be inspired by indigenous beliefs. The ideas are not copyrighted per say, but again they must be approached with humility and respect. When you speak about Native American religions, the elders are listening to you. They know your intentions! They understand you.
There is a lot of violence right now against indigenous peoples, but matriarchal systems are inherently peaceful. They are receptive to the Creator's touch.

Oral traditions exist and are handed to people regardless of race. It is medicine for all.
Overall, Very good questions to ask!

The answer to who gets to determine what is sacred: The elders of the tribe (in my case, a bunch of old grandmas)
If you don't listen to tribal leaders, then it is just mimicry

[kFoyauextlH]

Some people say that the Pope is God The Trinity's representative on Earth, others say the Dalai Lama is Avalokitesvara incarnate. Then there is something about elders watching. These are different beliefs that are not universally agreed upon or accepted. The people who might say one, may not believe in the others, one might say they believe all of them, but most don't believe any of them. The most universal thing among humans may be the rejection of at least something, whatever it is, though there are many things that most seem to acknowledge in some form due to how apparent it is, like breathing, the sun if they can see as most can, stuff like that.

To me, nothing belongs to anyone, human heritage is shared, and whatever is true abd useful and real should not be gatekept in the slightest, just like the Sun is for all but various people would want it all for themselves or their own, and the air that we breathe is shared between the humans hunting and killing the other humans in order that the victims can no longer partake. This Tribalist Greed is on full display right now, so maybe not a great time for Grandma Ghosties to chime in about what belongs to them exclusively. Many would not believe that they exist at all. The "lewzers" of History, which really is everyone, but some seem worse off than others, have not apparently been able to muster much of a cry from their graves, their skeleton mouths stuffed down with dirt by the sweaty musk of the manly 5 foot tall victors and their wives and children.

Is G*z*, after the whites kill all the other whites there, going to be a Haunted Resort Complete With Spooky Spas? Will the metrosexual whites manage to turn all the blood spilled pink and f*gulous? Will Abel be able to utter a peep?

Luckily, it seems, there is no such thing as Ghosts, not even the Holy ones, and according to the Western Media, if there were to be a ghost, it would be the evilest person that gets to live on forever, everyone else goes poof after screaming while being stabbed and turned into mince meat by the Man Who Would Be Ghost.

So, sadly, there is a belief system out there, making the rounds, that there is nothing that is watching, and nothing that will help, and so no reason not to, not to be unashamed in vileness and in r*cism and f*lthiness to every excessive degrees. The people on the telly are demonstrating to everyone that, like they had been saying for the last few decades increasingly, there is no Ghost, and there is No Baby, Johnny!

They are going to come right up into people's homes and r*pe and slaughter family members right before our eyes, just as they are doing now to "those non-people, number things, far away, specks from my perspective". The Grandmas are crying! Their tears apparently evaporate before reaching the Earth. There won't be reparations or even guilt once the guilty have trampled the whole of the Earth, and that will be soon, besides already being the case.

Any if this "for shame!" stuff just plays into their hand variously anyway, and they have none, and where are the forces of justice and protection and salvation? If life is so precious, as some may say, then why are there no measures, not even automatic or built into any system, which produce apparent consequences that make people second guess killing sprees like the one at hand?

"It was never Grandma Ghost's Job To Prevent Babies From Being M*rdered On TV, She Has Trouble Working The Remote".

Look at this obnoxious "piece of (sh)art" some jackass made:

Crap! I lost it, it is gone! Anyway, it was supposed to be Moses shaming and talking to modern groups, and barely says anything to the modern monsters but spends a lot of time warning the people being blown to bits daily, and said to the Pal people that "Don't Let Rage Become Your God" HA HA HA. It would be hard to control myself in the presence of some snot bag daring to say something in front of me like that, I'd want to hurt them SO badly, it even makes my heart pound just thinking about it. That f*cking loser thought it was so profound LOL. Probably a person who thinks "Moses" is worth anything too. Moses is dead, if they ever lived at all, and Ghost Moses has the excuse of either not existing or being as powerless as all other ghosts, except the very evilest according to Modern Western Agreement (MWA, notice how the shapes go violently up and down).

That being said, I don't personally believe these Grandmas know much of anything even while they are alive, their people are utterly ruined, but I wouldn't trust a "white" either, neither as a devout follower of anything, nor if they claim any special knowledge or interaction with anything spiritual, but likewise I wouldn't trust the "traditions" of a person who passed through the machine, and now wants to accumulate charismatic authority around being respected. What I'm trying to get at is that these Grandmas may be totally lost, westernized, ultimately sullied, there is a chance they are just like any grandma, knowing nothing much more than what they claim to remember anecdotal experiences that may or may not have happened. The dead ones are even worse, especially when their corpses are puppeteered by the living.

Back to being a disdainful "spiritual r*cist", All the people of this damned Earth seem to be lost. There is this white guy who looks very nerdy and like an old timey IBM employee stereotype from the 90s, just a total, perfect, nerd, and he is an Ancient Egyptian Priest according to him, and either he or another white man has been in contact with these God(s) directly.

The funny thing is, I hate such things, but maybe might be considered not all that different, in that I believe in any spiritual seeming experiences that I've had, I believe I am the one who knows and hears and sees and that they are delusional charlatans.

Options:

All Delusional Charlatans
None Delusional Charlatans
Some Delusional Charlatans

Sub Categories For Some:
Majority Delusional Charlatans
Minority Delusional Charlatans
Equal Delusional Charlatans To Non D Non C.

Chant: All None Some, All None Some, Ahlnunsum, Ahnuhsuhm.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankhesenamun

https://natm.fandom.com/wiki/Ahkmenrah

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khnum

I also take the stuff from the Americas seriously and personally, at least some of it, but I don't necessarily believe that the people who may "spit facts" are necessarily worthy of any respect themselves or even noble, were they knowable at all. This is because they are long gone, and I don't believe in any sort of blood carrying anything good, but like North American Horror Films taught me about ghosts, only Evil lives on, so at best, if Whites are getting worse, so are the other people with each iteration.

I don't really believe in idealized Ancients, but it does appear that even just a generation back, and back, and back, people might have seemed a little more decent and restrained more commonly compared to the direction things are being forced if the popular culture is anything to go by.

So my belief seems to be that I am nearly alone as the spiritual heir of all truth and magic, and that messages knock on the door of other people but are ignored or misinterpreted or misused by them, and that part of the problem may even be that they are coming from certain backgrounds, cultures, even genetics, that make them unable to do or get anything right, they are therefore accursed, but I'm not in much better of a state myself, because God seems to only sort of favor me, and all manner of injustice is in a seeming free-for-all state which only righteous violence, yea (pronounced yay) more violence, may be the only expedient solution, but the billions are weak towards the hundreds lol. Literally BILLIONS of decent sane people can not extinguish as absolutely necessary the MERE HUNDREDS causing the most problems lol lol lol lol lol lol.

And me and the engineer looking nerd both think we are talking to Horus! Except I don't think he is talking to Jack Sh*t!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wKrSYgirAhc?feature=shared

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NWWeQlXfSa0?feature=shared

https://youtube.com/shorts/NqK5YILoNa8?feature=shared

I disavow everything above as fiction, and take fiction very seriously, as little different from descriptions of supposed reality that we are told is non-fiction, "less untrue" supposedly.

[Rubsy]

This is an interesting debate but I think the reality is that people are crass and insensitive when appropriating other people's cultures, usually for profit, or in some cos play scenario, which can cause an inner cringe and uncomfortable feeling caused by their lack of care and understanding. I would pretty much agree with the things said on the ,'Grumpy Old Crone' , YouTube channel episode , 'People Telling You That You Aern't Allowed to be Interested in Witchcraft? No!!!!!!' ,episode.
It's a kind of down to earth rant that's quite well balanced about her experiences and observations in the pagan and witchcraft community and the question of cultural appropriation. If you watch it note time stamps 11.13 and 18.01.

[atreestump]

https://youtu.be/PvXpVMqTk-I?si=0junxBLfFofqmjlq

[kFoyauextlH]

Not to bring this up again or to give the impression that I am doubling down or anything on what I wrote in this thread, which was just half-serious hypothetical stuff for fun, but in case it was too rough or if someone comes along later who might get bothered by what I wrote or my style of writing here or in other places which it may appear, I will copy paste some of my explanations, excuses, justifications, and mindset to provide some background for what I was getting at or referring to, which were more abstract ideas and not with anything in mind that I thought was actually specifically real or specific to any precise belief or entities people may really think are similar to anything I was bringing up in a mocking way, plus this irreverent style is also for me and to check my own hypocrisy regarding anything too, since I read whatever I write also and first of all, so it is meant to expand my thinking and help me to think of how I might come up with counter positions or where these kinds of statements and suggestions would lead me, so it us never personal, even if it is inspired by some words someone else has written, it brings up ideas in my mind and is separated in my thinking from whoever wrote it initially, and these are not just excuses, I genuinely mean no insult or harm when I'm testing out ideas and pushing their limits and my understandings, since I've also taken the ideas or positions myself or similarly and I am reacting to them as if I am the holder of those ideas in order to come to the next steps in my thinking as I expand it by pushing at the inner borders and limitations of the ideas I am also rephrasing, and it isn't as a polemical type attack since I don't have an agenda really to promote anything other than just a habit of pushing for creativity, honesty, logic, rationality, "all things considered", pragmatism, things which I tend to value and think are important and healthy for anyone, so my intentions from my perspective, with any such practices, are benign and meant to be edifying and not meant to harm or support harm or what I think could be dangerous and deceptive, even self-deceptive. I can understand though that such a style of being a bit raw, crass, passionate, and whatever else can come off as just being a jerk, but what I present are not necessarily my final thoughts or thoughts or ideas I actually hold or keep or represent real opinions I have, they are more like arguments that could be made to challenge thinking, made to stimulate more thinking and clarification, defense, revision, explanation, or changes potentially, or nothing, it can just be ignored like it doesn't matter, and that can be for the best sometimes too since it wasn't meant to start actual fights since these issues are not deeply important to me, though I do learn from what I write too, and then they can become more important to me as more is revealed through interacting with the ideas that come up.

So whoever may read this, please don't mind and feel free to just bypass any of my writing, and when I get responses that are not getting the intended positive reactions, if I get the hint, I'll go elsewhere, like to another thread since I don't mean to step on toes of website users, that was not the idea behind any of my writing ever.

So now I'll share my text without the other text so it might be slightly edited and weird sounding like I am responding to nothing, but these are in case other people might be bothered by the same points as were brought up to me, and then I'll leave the thread alone mainly since I didn't mean to mess anything up with it by what I wrote, but I did gain a lot from the ideas, and from things which came up through my explanations too.

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The news coming in here is horrific, basically unmanageable. It is bad after bad, so I'm going to have to turn it off probably. A few things have been keeping my mind more happy or at least stable, but the news type stuff and reading the evil spam in comments under horror stories is all totally demoralizing and rage inducing.

If I were to prioritize things based on my energy levels and resources, none of this stuff is within my scope to deal with at all and even making the jokes I do here and there makes me feel at risk from any number of crazed people or groups. I have stuff at home I haven't even opened up to deal with because my sleep schedule is out of order also, and then with no energy I look at the junk spewed out on YouTube mainly.

The gameplan and advice remains the same though, that all this junk is not within our personal reach or ability to safely deal with, and so tuning out and focusing at home and turning a blind eye is the option I would take and further advise to any close people, even though such would obviously benefit any bad types, but doing anything about practically any of these issues can put one in harm's way, one way or another.

Despite what contrarian thought stretching exercises I may put up for mental exploration and creative thinking purposes, my real views are that generally lots of people should drop dead for being so rotten in my opinion, and I don't believe anything good is likely to maybe ever occur, or would be made painstaking if any even get anything moving, and no organized group can ever be trusted as they seem to always get bad people squirming up into power positions and basically governing bodies very quickly become corrupt and twisted by infiltration or other means.

If I made any sort of typo or contributed to any stress, that was not my intention with anything I may haven written or brought up, in certain cases it is catharsis also for me, but really just to lead towards some ideas I may be working on currently as extra ingredients for my own consideration too.

It definitely wasn't (meant to be a personal attack to any specific individual) though, I also made another post that might look like that, but again I can promise you that it is not meant to be an attack or hostile in actuality or to be taken too seriously or to heart, just like all my writing anywhere

Plus I do believe people should be respectful, I practically believe in the opposite of everything presented, which is even what I was putting those little warnings in for, I put a warning sort of at the end of my latest post too, but it can be hard to tell and I don't want to too blatantly mess up what I am writing since it is supposed to run in the mind and have an impact on the thinking and what comes up when trying to resolve the challenges it puts out there

I might write another one which takes a different angle, an angle I already started with briefly about Horus stuff mentioned after a very atheistic sounding rant

We don't usually end up with much variety in places or in discussions so I have to fill a bunch of different roles and characters and attitudes

Yeah, it is like how those writings were attributed to Plato but have all kinds of characters discussing things, even arguing and presenting different approaches and attitudes in the dialogues, but mine is worse because I don't separate them out clearly as different voices or people
I don't think differently though, that is how I know it isn't that
I fully believe it is obnoxious and wrong to appropriate stuff disrespectfully and basically all you said

what does that mean?

but then that would be that, which doesn't stimulate my mind at all
I mean that in every thread you've written anything, that is my position
My real life positions are boring and mundane

cliche, obvious, like it is a mainstream view, what you have been writing is the modern baseline mainly, most people probably agree and are of the same opinion and starting point

That isn't a bad thing, in fact I prefer that it be that way, since what I dislike isn't anyone who disagrees with me, what I dislike in reality are "freaks" or things that stray too far from the politically correct cliche ideology I was brainwashed with from the 90s

but what I present are totally radical extremes that are meant to stretch thinking while people are expected to keep snapping back to those very mundane Americanisms of the 90s

Like that the elders should be treated with dignity and respect and we should take care of the environment, Captain Planet stuff

That is from the time I grew up in and am fully conformed to

Saying that stuff once it has been said and is the base point of a discussion doesn't do much for me creatively though

So I put in crazier and wilder stuff along with intensity of emotions in the expressions and graphic and disturbing and absurd, surreal stuff to activate my imagination at least, to see where things might go

It might be annoying but for me it is actually productive, I come up with cool stuff based on it and the directions it takes me

I'd probably never (be able to do things seriously, like testing lived experiences differing from my real beliefs and feelings) though, I can't. All I can do is play.

They (Violent Organizations) seem like horrible people but I happily collected/appropriated their list of entities for any use

When it comes to reality, yeah, no one should play with life or ethics

Another part of what I try to do is to bring up things that are extreme but could have aspects that make one question "how much am I like that, or is there any little bit of that in me?"

Gods seem to be things that some people believe in and none really agree on except maybe the spellings that they choose to use

I mainly generate the insight for myself, I don't expect the other people to say anything insightful, they've laid out the starting point, then I go in all the directions, nothing is meant to be really interactive or personal about it, like you are not expected to do anything or at least I have no expectation

Like in my latest one, I re-read it and it is for me pretty interesting and amusing as to what it is saying, but I think it doesn't work on the minds of other people as it does mine

That is why I was impressed that Parrhesia got anything out of something I wrote

Most people probably have a reaction that stifles any productive use

Yeah, but I like to write it out and read it back too

Well there is a chance someone out there might get something out of it too, but I'm the first

When writing notes for myself, it doesn't end up the same, like it misses the things I'd write if I thought it might be read by someone else, I write more when I think it may be read and more clearly

Otherwise I might miss things because I think it would be unecessary to explain to myself the things I am aware of, so big chunks go missing

I definitely am not intending to attack you in the writing, nor to intimidate, since I am so grateful that I even was stimulated to write anything

blood flows inside the body and gives life to the thing, so the idea was that one can also invest meaning into something that wouldn't be given much meaning and give it new life

So for me, your making the thread stimulated lots of ideas that I am grateful came up, it was firstly me talking to me with no serious thought about those words being from you or in relation to you, they were treated as completely separated out statements that anyone could have said, which generated my response

almost like A.I. though other factors may have played some role, like trans issues which have been coming up separately from you too because of Contrapoints stuff recently

Like there is bleed from various things, the news, immigration, g*z*, identity stuff

that influences the directions I take or things I bring up in the tirade, which is meant to be as disconnected from you personally as a movie would be

It is hard for me to see it as offensive though, because of how I wrote it with no one in mind even, but you can point out the parts that really bothered you, but that I'm interested in to see how or why those various things were particularly disturbing or how they worked like that

Also the tone or performance of the words can potentially be imagined differently, as whatever you read it using or imagining may not be how I was imagining the performance

I have not changed in the slightest all my life, which I don't know what that means for me

The stuff I'm writing now could be written 20, even 30 years ago! There is evidence of my writing style and topics and all this stuff being the same since childhood.

How would one go about doing that?

I'm of a cowardly Opting Out philosophy that urges the same for anyone I know to preserve them from danger and potential harm while hoping that people I don't know do the right things and things that need to be done

That is, that other people risk life and limb in combatting evil while I avoid everything that I can

For me, it would be evil and true malice and hostility to be encouraging anyone I know and care about to potentially risk anything of themselves

Is there no combat necessary? I really do think that things have never been resolved by turning the other cheek, that those bloodless resolutions that are praised as peaceful just eventually lead to lots of suffering, for example Gandhi is praised for peaceful blah blah and the results are really worthless ultimately

If there is something killing a plant one wants to flourish, the thing killing the plant needs to be stopped, removed, the things reversed

If it isn't, the plant won't flourish, the thing stopping it from that will be the victor

If the holes in my apartment weren't finally properly sealed, the mice would be sh*tting everywhere still and making us unable to store anything in most places since they could access it

If people got to know a plant, cared for a plant, watched the plant grow, developed a bond with the plant

it would seem wrong to kill it and mash it up in the teeth

Yet, plants we don't know, are killed and mashed up in our teeth

So, similarly, I think that people who I don't know and have this not developed any major concern for, should be the ones to do the most important and dangerous things

While the few people that I know, I try to keep from any danger, just like a plant that one would never eat

I re-read all I wrote in your thread and found it funny and stimulating, and sad that you didn't like it or get anything out of it besides feeling bad, it sucks when there are different reactions like that, since I reacted to it upon re-reading it the way I had hoped others would too

Which is that it read as fast paced, entertaining, energetic, humorous, thought provoking lol and then the feedback is that it was terrible sh*t, even though that is my style and art that I like

I couldn't even figure out what was offensive about it or could be taken personally, but just know that in private I do agree with the basic stuff and the starting point and the wild writing serves a different purpose for me, hopefully others, offensiveness, especially in any direct way, is accidental and not part of what I was trying for

I read it and don't think it is offensive, it was meant to, among other things, bring up secret biases, prejudices, subtle ways in which we have fallen for things potentially, hypocrisy, double standards, attacks that could be made in general, to ourselves, to hone and sharpen defenses and strengthen ideas through rigor and getting tumbled

They were selling this rock tumbling device that polishes stones

I consider American stuff my spiritual heritage too, or a big and important part of it, so it can never be a genuine attack at all since I take seriously stuff from the Americas as genuine truth, but the groups I attach to most might have been hostile or somehow on the other side or are now categorized as bad, for example some symbols of personal significance to me are spoken about negatively in modern stories, maybe even ancient ones, for example:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_panther

These two are special to me, without having known any of this:

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So it could be that whatever you are associating with, or which is getting linked to you, is part of a different set
alanwake.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Presence

Lol did I even say that (about saying "they can all go die", but I never said that anywhere)? I definitely didn't mean you but where did I say that or to who or what imaginary group was that said? I put "die" in the search and it comes up with expedient and I can't find where that was said
Ruth is seemingly ok currently, last I heard she was alright, even though a pretty big dramatic thing recently occurred she seems to be not too badly phased by it
The people who I want to go die have nothing to do with you, if I've ever said it about anyone it is always about evil criminals, like people killing innocent people, people trying to trap people in bad situations etc, but I don't think I am seeing the "go die" section of anything I wrote in the imperialism thing
go die is a sentiment that I hold for the worst offenders and their supporters and helpers, so people who are working hark, psychos, animal abusers, child killers, politicians trying to destroy lives, soldiers doing horrible crimes, evil and corrupt police types, people who try to use these forces to attack and harm innocent people or vulnerable people and populations like animals, children, the mentally ill, etc
disabled, old people, all that

If you notice particular lines in what I wrote if you glance at it and something stands out that you had taken personally, then I'd be interested to know, but it was not you being talked about, you're not any of the characters made up in the whole thing, not the ones I am performing as or the ones being called out or talked about positively or negatively, but still I am missing the "go die" part if it is there. The things I was bringing up that I thought might be thought provoking had to do with bringing in doubts and other things which may be similar which we or other people may disregard, so that if the things are just switched between them, then it shows a double standard. I don't know who I brought up for the death sentence, but typically it would never have to do with you but instead like people who are actively committing major violent crimes
I read all that slowly all over again and these posts didn't seem to have a go die about any imaginary group, plus it has never been about any group you might associate with or feel an affinity to if I ever have presented any go die type statements, that only ever might come out in relation to really bad killers and criminals

The only "then die!" appears in a video clip from the film Ghostbusters where Gozer The Gozerian says "Are You A God?" and Ray Stantz says "No?" and then Gozer says "Then Die!", lol part of the comedy from my absurd comedic post and writing from a clip from a comedy movie, and not talking about you at all, but that is the only thing I found that even has the word "die" in it from among those posts, otherwise it was my using the word expedient and planetary bodies. Did you read what was actually written or mainly just sort of skim and were guessing that I was being hostile without paying too much mind to what was actually being said im case it would be worse than what you were imagining? I assume some people might do that, so that could account for thinking I was saying something like "go die" at some point but that doesn't even appear there as far as I can see.

(I was asked if I hate most people, which was an interesting, thought provoking question)

Probably not, I don't think about people too much or how I feel about them, so I don't have an opinion on them, in real life I get along very well with everyone and have friendly and positive interactions
I dislike English language internet culture where I see a lot of things I don't like, which could be bots or oddballs or agents with agendas. I like females and female forms, especially if they are pleasant and attractive seeming to me, so that is a lot of people right there, whoever likes me which is pretty much whoever knows or interacts with me as far as I can tell, so that is a lot and a lot of potential people
I hate crazed criminals and killers of innocents, so that is like a very tiny group of hypothetical and imaginary people I don't know and hopefully won't encounter
So theoretically it is possible that I'm positive about the majority of human beings, and harshness tends to be towards "bad actors" who are overall a minority, like bad policymakers and authorities and their goons, evil militaries, tiny evil nations and evil cultures compared to the bigger populations where many more good people seem to exist

There are many elderly people, particularly older women I like too, women always seem to have an advantage in that regard and I have good experiences mainly and interact with women most
I rarely ever see hideous looking people and the unhinged seeming people that may put one on alert are always just one out of thousands
I don't have strong negative feelings towards those people either, like the drug afflicted, but I definitely like that less than the majority of friendly people
If people at such a bad time seem so fine, maybe they were always mostly alright throughout the ages

Could you explain that? The vulnerable strong vs. weak thing?
I wouldn't care if someone was really safe or invulnerable, my general policy is for anyone that I know to advise against bringing trouble close or around or to head into danger in any way, and I know very few people, but for various degrees of distance and not knowing people, and the more abstract they get, then I urge more action and potential risk since I don't know them and they aren't close so they are better to vaguely try to get to take actions

Everyone is a vulnerable group or individual compared to violent soldiers and armed "enforcement" officer types
I have maintained the same comedic, abrasive, slapstick, graphic, style of writing for decades, so there is nothing new there really, and my policies of advising against danger for anyone I know regardless of physical conditions or strength or frailty in any way has also remained the same, I do not want harm to be brought near to anyone in my story that I hear about since it bothers me when bad things are happening to anyone I know or who are near or who I'm hearing about

So it bothered me a lot also that a girl I knew basically only when I was in elementary school up to the 6th grade abd barely spoke to ever had killed herself, I didn't even know her or talk to her but it bothered me so much, so that is for someone I barely even knew who had contact with me, had I talked to her, all advise would be what I thought may preserve them from harm
When I write stuff though, these are totally free wandering ideas that inspire some creative directions in me as reactions, they are not personal, they don't have you in mind practically ever, if ever anyone I know comes into play it is in the most theoretical and abstract way like thinking of anecdotal stories or referring to aspects of things you've told me or have experienced, but I don't think I've ever done that anywhere yet regarding people I know or their experiences and that is just that whatever gets filed away as knowledge about experiences, it becomes abstract too, but I still haven't brought up any of those things in writing even in a disconnected and abstract way pretty much ever

I am not usually thinking of you or your unique positions, but you might come to mind in reference to the spiritual aspect in several ways, though again, The reason I bring that up is I might mention that idea in upcoming writing, not in your thread, and want to let you know ahead of time it literally has nada, zip, nothing at all to do with you and the way I think about you. It may even be the case that I barely even think of you as any particular identity that is external seeming, because I don't see you often, I communicate through text, so the visual badge is just barely there and there is a much stronger personality that is stronger than any image or identity factors

I do think of the people I keep in touch with as more personality entities that have certain stories and messages that tend to come up through each aspect, and which help me keep in touch with different perspectives and eyes on the world and issues
So more than any individuals, bolder and more cartoonish stereotyped groups may be what are brought up and used in my semi-comedic writing and ranting, you are not even much on the mind even when I am using your writing as a springboard or inspiration to go off of, but I won't write stuff in your threads now if it is making them messy or somehow not pleasant to see in there, even if I'm inspired by things you bring up, I'll write it separately in my own threads so the messiness can be kept there and you can curate your threads and get responses that are unlikely to be in the rodeo style

So if I do write inside your threads, I won't write it like my usual style of posting, but most likely, since it is easiest for me to write freely in my usual style, I'll just put it in one of my own threads

Yeah, it is likely that it is popping out to a lot of people as attacks that strike at them even though it is not meant to, it is meant to be semi-comedic and expose all people's secret issues, biases, double standards, weaknesses, falseness, most especially my own, it is supposed to also to offer challenges to ideas, even ideas I believe and accept, to figure out how to navigate them or what the conclusions might be with these things brought up taken into consideration even if in normal activity and thought these are ignored or put aside

Yeah, I don't take it quite as seriously possibly, though my posts have serious things brought up, it is still in a way I think reads funny and absurd and nothing matters that much to me overall, even the things I am most serious about and hate the most of all like abuse and harm and killing of innocents seems like it can't really be stopped before so much has gone through, those things that have gone through weren't stopped, so revenge fantasies are all that are left
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The fuss over words (like not to say "inspiration" or "reference") pisses me off, but that was an interesting find
It seemed like a weird, bold thing for them to try to slip into a kids cartoon where no one would likely know what they were referencing

Thank you for collecting all that, I appreciate it. I have never said that insight requires harm, I said that in my system of interpreting symbols in visual arts, when I see blood in stuff, I can sometimes try to make it mean insight or what gives life to something on the inside, a definition with greater meaning, not blood or drawing actual blood from actual people or animals, but like if a music video shows blood coming out of eyes, I turn that into seeing insight possibly
I target groups, I was saying the groups I target usually should have nothing to do with you or individuals you associate yourself with, they are also imaginary largely, but are typically unpleasant types and "bad actors" whether matching anyone real or hypothetical or possible
I think you might not even really know what I'm saying in these things or bringing up or trying to bring up to make one think of counters for to hone defenses, it is useless to just get annoyed only and not even try to see what it can be countered with when taking the challenges seriously, and these are not challenges from me, I don't believe in the positions of anyone who might bring up these things necessarily

So I will explain each thing that you brought up here
Grandma Ghost. Grandma Ghost is an idea about a fictional entity, that some may say is real. This hypothetical entity is suggested to exist, and if they do exist, the irreverent questioner I am presenting as is basically saying how Grandma Ghost is powerless if they even exist at all since they are doing nothing about G*z* for example or baby chickens crushed my mechanical teeth, so what good are any Grandma Ghosts if they literally do nothing but helplessly watch, just the same as us real people. This was to challenge the mind to think of solutions or urging reason, getting offended by it is silly seeming to me because the whole thing is made up and presented as comedic and absurd, a ghost with the problems of an elderly person like trouble with technology.

There was a guy on YouTube who left a comment that made up dialogue for Moses shaming modern nations, barely saying a word to the most heinous criminals and instead mostly condescendingly cautioning the victims of the people of Moses, so it was extra rude and annoying seeming, how on Earth that could offend you is difficult to understand. It is saying further that Moses, if Moses ever existed, is dead and like other ghosts, seems to be useless. Then I joke about horror movies. What would that have to do with offending you? How could anyone take it personally?

Now the challenger is throwing doubt on the idea of old people necessarily knowing anything much or being wise or right by default, which is a view many may hold. Then it says that a tan person may know as little as a white looking person, and I bring up that white people are viewed with suspicion as the traditional modern villain group, and then I throw doubt onto "traditions", especially after they have passed through the "machine" of time and colonial meddling and influence and reaction to the horrific circumstances. Literally nothing to do with you.

This was a conspiracy theory being offering up here that says the unreadable languages they are inventing here in the Pacific Northwest are going to be having a negative effect rather than giving new life to things or helping to lead to their growth by keeping people out by making huge problems and irritation and learning curves blocking people from even being able to enter abd enjoy the material. I fear you didn't understand much of anything being presented and only saw harsh language and vaguely came up with a tone that you took as offensive.

This brings up the idea of "a person deserves respect after they are a victim or have been wronged" and questions it as a possible logical fallacy.

This brings up the idea that the people left, bringing us any stories, were potentially the groups that were evil towards others in the past with different stories potentially, but they crushed them, appropriating those other stories or mangling them, how do we know if these aren't the villainous survivors who were atrociously cruel in the past? So this was throwing doubt in another way. This was telling a made up hypothetical and absurd comedically dark scene of a tribe dominating another tribe which had different beliefs. What does it have to do with you? These are meant to make rational people think further about things.
Also ducks and bunnies are like Bugs and Daffy Duck, bringing up the idea that this all might be fan service like people who like this or that fictional cartoon character
What is "slave morality", I don't know terms, I am just making up this stuff myself, I don't have terms that I'm familiar with which capture these things, though they might exist, I'm also up here answering each of these or explaining them

This is about the vast amount of people holding different ideas and saying different things. So I bring up those things that were on the news like some ladies who says they are African one way or another but others reject that, my focus was on the concept of differing claims altogether, not that any one is right or wrong, but also to bring up how people balk and are offended by certain things and want to exclude people from certain things, this is to bring up a sense of confusion and alienation. There are also Japanese people given the free pass by some who do appropriation that the same who give the Japanese a free pass would scoff at a white doing, I am calling out all levels of hypocrisy, double standards, and bringing up cartoonish and comedic examples. It would offend people who have no idea what I'm saying, but it is like a movie that is showing lots of things by bringing to mind popular culture examples people may know about, getting offended by it seems weird to me, but lots of people have half-read and never understood much, if anything, that I ever say, they just turn it into sounds or something that they themselves imagined and then get offended by God knows what because you're not any of these examples, you're not a Japanese person with corn rows as your hairstyle, like seriously, how can someone take that personally lol.

Ok, thanks for explaining, but that doesn't sound exactly like what I am trying to present as challenges, since I was simply bringing up that some people start valuing things more if it is coming from a victim of something, even if the content of what the victim is saying would have otherwise bern something the person would have rejected or ignored.
I was bringing up that people start treating things differently based on superficial seeming reasons or unrelated reasons to the actual content presented, I'm not sure what that necessarily has to do with the stuff from that guy

Mchkiniway is a name I made up for a fictional character. It is throwing doubt again at certain things people may do, like believing in potentially made up things, that even if real don't do anything apparently useful for anyone at all, so that they are as fictional or as useless as the deity Grok A.I. suggested recently. The "J*w*sh Superman" was a layered reference to the new Superman film and the ethnic supremacist views of some modern Z*onists where they imitate N*z* style ubermensch stuff and also may have invented Superman.

What offended you about this? I am saying that my writing has a mocking and comedic style that is meant to be funny and is funny for me when I read it back. It says I don't like people who physically attack innocents and that is what I am most serious about. Then after bad things happen, people who couldn't stop it, are left with fantasizing about punishing the criminals, what the hell does that have to do with offending you? Like how are you even reading this stuff, it isn't making sense toe how anyone could take this personally?

This is saying that even if a person I know was invulnerable like Superman, I would still advise the people I know personally away from harm, danger, trouble, risks, since I don't want that stuff near me in any way, like through them. For people I don't even know at all, they are as random as "the police", so it is like saying "the police should catch the bad guys", "the police" are just some random abstract thing in such a comment, if I personally knew someone, I would tell them not to be a police officer at all to spare them from all kinds of risk and trouble. How the fyuuuicky is that offensive to you?
"I didn't adopt the religion because of feeling bad about them" or whatever, good, then I wasn't talking about you, nor was I even thinking of you, but you took it as though I was? Like if I said some guy robbed a convenience store, you would gasp and go "me?", like what the heck
You weren't the example in any of these, you are not in the writing, your post inspired the challenges, you were not being addressed or referred to at all

Then I say that I consider all people to be vulnerable to armed and armored maniacs like violent enforcement agents, duh! Doi!
Anyway, I do appreciate you went through to let me know which bits bothered you, though I don't even understand how you were reading it that could make getting offended even possible, but you now and other people in the past have indeed been bothered by my writing and I've always been puzzled and thinking people are just not reading it, reading it properly, or are making weird assumptions, something is going wrong, I even go further to offer the theory that, when people get offended, it could have no visible cause or trigger and they are instead under some influence that is in some contrary alignment to what I am under, and so I showed you that water panther stuff, since I know what is behind me, but other people might not know, and in other cases they might be aligning in those periods under some opposing spiritual energy or faction

That is a spiritual conspiracy theory, mainly I think people just don't read, don't read properly, don't know what the f*ck I am saying, they just sort of understand there is a challenging, belligerent, questioning, mocking seeming tone generated by the words I chose and sequenced, but anyway, I hope this has clarified what I was saying in those paragraphs you selected and how you literally were not a factor in my thinking or references

The challenger style, when it comes up or is used, has remained consistent for all my time writing on forums. It is shared because it helps me to write by sharing and bouncing ideas and responding and also in the hope that it expands thinking by offering challenges which then get the counters to deal with the things brought up, but that can't happen if people are getting offended, trying to shut it down or silence any questioning, or none of it is understood so that false versions are responded to instead, which is still maybe at least more productive than nothing. Saying "those are inner thoughts, shut up and keep them to yourself and inside" lol is so not productive, how can that be useful for creativity even?

Also, one more thing, I was trying to also present something beyond challenges to sharpen and strengthen ideas, but trying to being up and offer viable positions or options for people like us, that means, the best and freest openings for outsiders with no quantum

Yeah, exactly, what you said there, is exactly why I also was putting up those challenges, because you can not rightfully take the position of groups that would eject you for a lack of heritage or quantum.

You also looked down on Starseed crazy folks, well they are in a position much closer to ours and it isn't right then to scoff at them while we are barely different
From the perspective of others potentially

All the challenges are to be dealt with for strengthening and understanding arguments being made and proposed or suggested or brought up in your initial post, taking the words from that post separated from you as a person, it had nothing to do with you directly, it was to bring up lots of questions, others did or may also do the same but to a much lesser degree and without specific colorful examples or angles to illustrate things or bring the mind to things
I put care and lots of time into stuff, but sometimes people hate it and hate how it looks or sounds to them, I even take time to explain it with care too, and half-assed stuff doesn't bother anyone

So, what are the answers to all those things or how does one navigate them? That was supposed to be the thought provoking part, and it us for me at least, I have to think of how one deals with those and what it ends up leading to in each case.
So if you believe in something, that isn't necessarily even the issue or an issue, just how one deals with everything else or continues to justify those beliefs to themselves and possibly others and facing challenges that should concern an intellectually and spiritually sincere and honest person
Since, some may say, truth should matter, and to a person that doesn't care about the truth, they lose much of a way to condemn anyone or anything.
Also, I'm always genuinely interested in what is going on with people and what may be secretly going on with them beyond what they have as their own explanation or narrative for things What is it that you're trying to get through to me though? Just these things you are saying? If it is something else you can just try to explain it, but what I'm more curious about is what you may be imagining that I disagree with?

Well, luckily there are no people looking at that but you mainly. It wasn't about you, it wasn't about your particular elders real living ones or real astral ones, but other grandma ghosties, different made up characters that I made up, as part of challenges for thoughts to be produced for you to think of counter measures against any of these sorts of ideas if they are brought up. What if someone said the Starseed stuff you scoffed at, pu-pu'd, and made out to be silly has offended such and such group of things that you don't believe in or others don't believe in? I made up Grandma Ghosties, they aren't yours, it is on another level of coocoo clock to be saying my copyright characters I made up are offending you by being depicted as powerless. Mine are the ones that the challenges were suggesting are powerless, if yours are powerful then they aren't the same ones, plus I was never talking about yours, I was talking about if other people come up with other conflicting things, because you know other people are out there right? For example Starseed people, and Catholics, and blah blah, each individual with unique beliefs and ideas and nuances that are all their own, so a zillion different ideas about things in reality.

The Tribalist Greed on full display is about how Tribalists are laying claim on the land where people had been living, those that I'm referring to are J people, and the Grandma Ghosties which I invented are apparently powerless, as powerless as "MechaHitler" and "The Deity Hitler" to do anything against the real life people committing mass child m*rder on the television, meanwhile you're getting offended by stuff that really has nothing to do with you. I can only say I'm sorry that you thought my made up characters for these hypothetical and comedic scenarios accidentally hit to close to home to something you say you believe in, but I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about other people's beliefs, challenging things from different directions, to use for strengthening arguments, and this is not the way to strengthen arguments at all
Since no one who might have misunderstood is even seeing this explanation and you wanted silence as the response and control, not dissimilar from Imperialist reactions really but we're not encouraged to explore such things

and the Grandma Ghosties, mine, not yours, the ones I made up, aren't seemingly able to help him at all.
Or even yours, can yours assist in healing him? No? Then what exactly do they help with? That was the idea being brought up in the challenges, gasping and being offended is not the answer, one has to think honestly what is real, effective, accessible, usable, how it works, I'm not saying whatever you nowadays are into is not real, you know I didn't know about this stuff because you've said various things as you've gone on, just a few months or years ago there were certain things which you were into that now you maybe aren't into so much, like some of that negative or darker stuff, and that isn't even about if it is real or not or does anything or not or what it does or how it is said to work

Yes, people with half-baked ideas don't like thinking about them, that is probably what has offended a tiny minority on any forum, they read these challenging type questions, it bothers them because they feel like they aren't equipped with answers for it, and so it is like pulling their pants down, but the thing is, no one saw their embarrassment or shame, but somehow, because the minority has an illogical way of thinking, they feel exposed by questions that they looked at, and so they mobilize to silence the questioning, but its a minority of unwell folks, the majority of people are rational enough to fully understand what I was saying and the challenges, what they were for and bringing up, and even now my explanations, were they known, I may copy paste my explanations in there too just in case someone eventually wanders along and gasps in horror at what they've witnessed in my posts there, but then I won't continue to write there, as it disappoints me that this was the reaction or response, since it isn't what I wanted or expected.

I'll also not write in your threads, not as a boycott or protest or anything, but for concern that you might again think I'm trying to mess with stuff you're into currently, which I am not actually ever doing, and even if you write stuff that inspires ideas in a general way for me like what you wrote in Spiritual Imperialism did for me without any connection beyond that to you or whatever you happen to be thinking or believing or into these days, I will write it separately in a different area so that you can keep your threads clean from my challenges and suggestions or thought experiments or whatever

Of course you can come into my threads and respond normally, it shouldn't be an issue as far as I can tell, but I don't want to risk triggering anything like this reaction again, while I still want to do what I've always done, which is to stretch my thinking and call out myself and my own ideas in a format I can read again, and potentially get feedback from others who properly deal with the challenges to see what their minds might be brought to

It is a term meaning being too light and too timid about how you need to approach something serious, a person's life is at stake, wasting energy on the challenges I wrote is a waste of time and energy, you won't get anything more out of it than that I wasn't talking about you or your particular beliefs (whatever they may be for anyone who might read this) that you currently believe in, if they are able to stop G*z* stuff and just aren't, then whatever, I was never referring to yours anyway. I took your writing as any random writing and came up with my ideas and challenges to strengthen ideas and make myself and potentially others think, yeah it can look belligerent as part of my style, that has been my style since childhood, I have not changed.

Finally, I've grown up with normal and average people, and they are the majority, and the stuff I've looked at and dealt with has been majority stuff representing the majority of people and their thoughts. Most people don't use forums, and out of a tiny minority the few on any forum writing anything or reading specifically who believe in unusual outlier type beliefs are an even smaller minority, even if they act to organize against people, they don't represent norms at all, like the voodoo people promoting animal abuse who I have spoken out against or the people trying to hurt other animals and burn churches who always end up trying to organize against any questions, those are a minority of outlier, not typical or average types or individuals, a super tiny little micro minority that gets offended and tries to act on it with various tactics to amplify their responses like by using report button abuse and mobilizing others to join in and help when they've created cells and cliques

I have never dealt with or navigated weird groups and cliques on places like Discord where people constantly police each other and each other's language and are pretending to read each other's kinds abd intentions which is an online thing that developed after my time and I wasn't raised in it or influenced by such things because I was outside of all that and have never belonged to any network of people doing that, but that is what some have only known, growing up, so they are used to navigating such things, though the vast majority of people never do, they don't even view forums

The pendulum is also swinging back again towards surveys saying most of those they surveyed are reporting that they don't like the easily offended mentality or catering to it or to minority views, so it is moving away again from politically correct caution and tiptoeing around glass in a minefield the way it had people, so my writing is not anything really that would trigger any "normies" as they are rudely called today by the people allowed to say rude things but others can't be rude about anything they like lol hypocrisy is what that used to be called and double standards, because most normal people, the bast majority, not only don't show up reading anything on forums ever, let alone responding at all which is an even tinier minority that ever do, but every individual has different ideas and beliefs, and so only the tiniest minority would ever take something personally because those are non-specific things that are also things that most don't happen to believe in at all, like the odds that anyone believes that my vague, made up, Grandma Ghosties stuff has anything in it close to what they actually believe, is very low, because the vast majority these days, maybe always in history, never held any beliefs even close to anything I was challenging or joking around about to bring up ideas

that is because the kinds of places I've written on are already the oddest of the odd, with the most unusual of people, where the statistical odds and chances of encountering a very unusual instance of triggering or offending someone is higher, since I'm dealing with the minority of the minority of the minority on odd topics like totally one man army religious ideas and personal spiritualities, like no one on Wizard Forums could be an average or normal person because even passing half-hearted interest in magic unseriously is an outlier thing, the vast majority today never think about it even as a joke or casually, but those people joined a forum for it, then fewer out if those typed anything, fewer more extensively, and one of the people I offended there or who got on my case was the oddest of the odd because he was an African ancestry guy in Celtic Orange Haired Wicca! I didn't even get banned there, he got demoted and banned for abusing me!

I'm saying this so that you understand that the reality is totally different from how the internet play can skew the perception totally and misrepresent or lead people away from the on the ground, real life considerations and facts, how it can amplify things to make the small big, the big small, the alone as legion

(It was said "It is immoral to steal entities from systems you don’t understand")

So the challenge to that would be how would one know and who decides what one has the right to use or "understands" properly or not? Surely someone could find people who think what you are saying isn't right or true, just as an example, likewise, there are people who sincerely believe in stuff you denigrate and deny, something you call violence so which you act violently towards, such as alien stuff or maybe Catholic stuff, and to top it all off, there is a lot of history claiming the Native American tribes were male dominated with chiefs and tribal warfare and all sorts of violent stuff including violent stories
So what we're left with is to each their own and everyone just leaves each other alone and nobody necessarily perfectly agrees with everyone else either
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So that concludes the writing, also when I collected it, I noticed that there was text I hadn't seen because of some delays with it showing on my end until later but the conversation had moved down past those areas before it showed up, so I possibly did not see certain things which may have looked like I just didn't answer or something and my text may not have been showing up in a timely way either so the responses could have seemed like things were not being seen either, so email might be a better way of communicating since at least we can be more sure the full text is sending and it is easier to read again too, so I might have a little hesitancy using the live chat function here for that reason, at least in these early days as it is just getting going.
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