Boethiah Khaine

Post by **kFoyauextlH** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 9:18 am

I was reading the 8th edition Warhammer book of the "Dark Elves" and was disturbed by the propaganda that so totally seemed to resemble things that have been said by a certain government about a certain people.

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The evil kin of the High Elves hold sway over the bleak land of Naggaroth. It is a confident general indeed who leads his men against these vile torturers.
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Putting in the word Naggar is you know what.

Also the name of their spiritual leader is Malekith, which isn't too far off from Mahemith.

They've even seemingly used ideas regarding the Dark Elves of Dungeons and Dragons, the Drow, with fantastical tales of underground cities used by these "dark" and religiously "evil" beings. It is all fun and games and enjoyable ribbing until it us actually used against real human beings as propaganda to encourage and justify atrocities against actually innocent people. The same g*nocidal logic of "they will just grow up evil one way or another" that is used to completely obliterate unreal non-human troops and communities in games is being used by actual psychopaths viewing real people in the same way.

The line between fiction and reality may have always been blurred, even throughout the historic past, long before any of these current groups of people that exist, existed.

All the while, strange trends are being pushed, like denial of the roundness of the Earth in favor of ways most think that it is not, and saying things that most don't think are true, and insisting that such be said, that such which most think is false and wrong be the "official position". Then there is the wiping out of and manipulation of and revising of history, and even beyond that there is the outright denial of history, like efforts to try to "prove" that certain things didn't exist or never happened, like this effort:

https://www.businessinsider.com/history ... al-2021-12

https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/c ... ire_trend/

https://www.quora.com/Are-there-really- ... er-existed

https://www.reddit.com/r/dancarlin/comm ... dnt_exist/

Remember when Obi Wan Kenobi said that if he was struck down by Darth Vader he would become more powerful than Darth Vader could possibly imagine?

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If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
"

Well, it appears that certain things operate best when they become increasingly abstract, like the "Spirit Of Rome", and the "Roman Spirit" of trying to get governments to help crush freedoms so that minority groups, like Christians for example, can take over entire Governments and impose their once minority and fringe ideas upon the majority, even making acquiescence to such federally mandated and punishable if offered the slightest resistance or questioning with all kinds of intimidation and terror as a response to create fear and conformity, the same power that new groups salivate for and call "rights" and "respect".

https://youtu.be/oI6CTj72C2k?feature=shared

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UhZOdQBJI ... ure=shared

"He He, Ho Ho" lighthearted propaganda about the horrible injustice of this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualt ... e_Iraq_War

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1,033,000 excess deaths
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORB_sur ... casualties

Nobody talks about it, it was based on a fiction, and the criminals all got away with it, with many of them also enriching themselves from the heinous bloodbath.

Now the lunatics have let loose a m*rderspree again, with numerous nations being attacked and a population of millions held completely hostage and being depleted daily, and I'm meant to give a f*ck right now about other things like the meat industry or something, and the truth is that so many sick f*cks actually think "it is for the best", and that even I think that nothing good likely awaits any survivors of this ongoing horror if it ever even is stopped, since the insane menace will still be present to never relent in making their life hell, ALL BASED ON FlCTIONS.

Post by **kFoyauextlH** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 9:18 am

Even the formation of "God(s)" seem to be initially, possibly, based on interpretations of reality, that turn increasingly symbolic and fictionalized, then these become "historic" as the "things now considered fictions which currently non-existent populations may have believed", the accounts of which are likely spurious and impossible to verify and are at the very least unrecognizable to those people were they alive today to speak on behalf of themselves, which they would probably never be allowed to, as "authorities" of various sorts shout them down and punish them into silence for opposing the fabrications that the current people insist upon, and Force is the only Law.

Lies upon lies, layers of lies. Even the fictional religions and deities in games are based on and inspired by things that were supposed to have existed in the historical record, as interpreted and understood by later people with their own twists based on the lies they were born breathing.

That might not only equalize some fiction with what is supposed to be non-fiction about things now considered fictions anyway, but some fictions, deliberate fictions, may end up surpassing accidental fictions, in representing or carrying certain truths that can at least seem verified by life or experience.

Life and experience itself is something invalidated for large swathes of the population, from anyone accused of having mental illness, to thr deceived, to the too sure of themselves, also known as the smug, and sometimes they are all one person! Only some experiences and types of experiences are considered valid as any kind of evidence for anything by certain people, let alone no one knowing what the f*ck anyone is even saying in the first place, but vaguely assuming we kind of maybe "get it" and therefore may "have it", and in other cases "don't want to", even if we "never did"!

Which brings me to the mention of Loec, another deity from Warhammer, who seems to be based on Lugh and Loki who are themselves likely related, and which no one "really believes in" all that much, particularly as "Loec", even though "Loec" may be as real or non-real as Lugh and/or Loki, or even more real than the misunderstandings of those, or not at all having anything to do with reality whatsoever.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warha ... 0805125702

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Loec's followers are often identified by the rune of Arhain worn around their necks, or engraved upon the hilts of their knives [1] and whilst the worshipers of Loec have no true temples, they may have personal shrines within their homes. Due to his very nature, he is most often associated with the wandering Shadow Warriors of Nagarythe.
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https://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Shadowlands

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The Shadowlands is all that remains of Nagarythe, the ancestral homeland of the Dark Elves.
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I've worshipped Loec all my life. That is to say, what I've been worshipping and which I credit for whispering to me, I consider none other than Loec.

https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Loec

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Indeed, many Forest Dragons hold true to the belief that Loec honed his cleverness under the tutelage of Draugnir, Father of Dragons. The Wood Elven Wardancers, being Loec's foremost devotees, hold that the opposite is true, and love to engage Forest Dragons in battles of wits to prove their point.[3a]
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https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Wardancers

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Other Wood Elves regard the Wardancers as wild and unpredictable, and not without cause, for they are the servants and worshippers of the Elven trickster god, Loec. The Wardancers lead the Elves in music and rejoicing, and perform the intricate dance rituals that re-enact the history of Athel Loren, a form of storytelling more important to the Wood Elves than the more conventional method of writing.[2a]
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https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Cegorach

I believe that in reality, there seem to be certain things that seem to aggregate and surround people which tend to further define them and become part of the composite that is the manifestation of them and their life. These seem to also align to different things, that can end up being like people on contrary courses or even within opposing streams and ending up being contrary due to the "luck" of whatever happened to be the nature of the stream they were born into and perhaps even were born as, so that there is nothing anyone can necessarily even do about these things, in actuality imposed upon them so that their decisions even will conform to whatever they will decide based on whatever factors or even just the direct influence of something they can not control since nothing of them is even there to be ahead of it. So that means whatever influenced their first thoughts occurring, and then those next thoughts, none of it was ever their doing, they couldn't decide any of it really, whatever they decided and whatever reason they may give for having decided anything was influenced and never controlled by anything.

So I was thinking, and I hope this is coined by me, "I shop, therefore I am". Mindless consumption starts off our existence, defines us and our stream that most people never become aware of (but awareness makes no difference most likely as the unaware are likely as devoted to their purchase path as the fully aware is helpless regarding their hunger, taste, and final decisions which they act upon or which happen to occur).

That is the story of how Loec became my Lord and how I became aware of the term Loec and felt comfortable using it, as I had already used Lugh, Loki, and Loxias, among other aspects of One in my view, that is apparent and represented in the reality, but which people take as a fiction, or otherwise accept in fictionalized forms they consider to varying degrees the more "authentic", none of which I am ever likely to recognize, as in my opinion they are nothing but Christians, forever cursed to their banal "paganism" and heresy.

I have little to no respect for most of what prior or post people ever say, but I always look out for the things which seem to surround them, and what I believe that they are "really" saying and "really" are, their "reality" in my view, which may be "fiction" for them, such as whatever they seem to really be about and after, even if they say otherwise, I would hopefully show why it seems evident to me, like if a person is obsessed with money, and then seems to also have these other colors and symbols all around them and which they frequently use, then others do the same, then I might think, hmm, this person seems to be under the power of some kind of aspect having to do with these things, even though they may say they are atheists or anything else, I try to recognize or perhaps "make up" something I see that may be made up of symbols and related to symbolic things, but seems more true and real to me than whatever mainly useless seeming designations or identities they give to themselves, which don't mention what a wh*re they are in some other way.

Post by **kFoyauextlH** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 10:00 am

Post by **kFoyauextlH** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 10:27 am

From the link under the word "Framework":

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What does it need in order to be responsible for all this?

It would need the Ability to Generate or Produce "Stuff" like anything, whatever information, laws, data, reality, matter, whatever.

Matter itself can not be the base because it can't just do stuff.

So anyway, it is Like Nothing, but has to have the intrinsic power to Generate Stuff.

Even that is not enough though. Since having the power to generate does not mean having anything which causes that power to be triggered or used.

So it needs the Drive to Generate.

Even that is not enough though. Since a blind drive to Generate or use a Power would activate its use but without nuance or limits and so it would do all it could all at once all the time and there would be a static blob of everything which is not at all what we have now. So it didn't do that but has another intrinsic and important component which we can be more certain of due to how things are now.

So it has to exist and so is present but Like Nothing, has to have the Ability or Power to Generate Stuff, has to have the Drive to activate the power, but has to also have the choice or nuance of choosing or selecting what is produced and what is not produced and to do or not to do, to Be or Not To Be at any particular moment, which creates the particular shapes of things, their structures and limits, the fact that there is the appearance of different things and different moments which are not alike or everything but refined by all that they are not. This final necessary component is the beginning of or proof of a kind of "intelligence" that selections are made rather than blind execution of everything.

We can take it from the other direction as well, where what we have now is at its vaguest "stuff", and this "stuff" appears to be "changing" moment to moment.

In order to appear to change, the "as is" moment you were experiencing "as is" is no longer present or existing "as is" or else you would be experiencing that particular shape or sight exactly, but instead that "as is" moment is totally not there and another "as is" moment appears to be which has differences and is not the same in some way as the other one. This can be considered the elimination of something and the coming into existence of something.

Now, a moment itself can not produce another moment. This is because the moment no longer even exists "as is" when the other new seeming moment or picture or shape of things is present. So what is gone can not be held responsible for executing or completing the execution of some task, even if it could or had such a power and wasn't inert and essentially a dead thing.

So there is something else behind this appearance of change, this process of elimination and generation and elimination and generation which is giving us the ability to process a sense of Being or animation and changing thoughts and moments.

Since moments or experiences or whatever we are talking about are information, and information does not have the ability or existence to produce other information or moments, this thing that is doing it or bridging that gap must again have certain qualities.

It does not cease to exist the way the information moments do or are made to. It does not itself or can't "change" which requires the elimination thing I mentioned and thus another unchanging force responsible behind it. It is not information or made of information or stuff, it is thus Like Nothing.

What is Like Nothing can only be One, there is no structure to divide what is Like Nothing as it has no limits or qualities or borders or shape as it is not Stuff or made of information.

So it is Not Information, which has the power to generate information.

Now what muhammed-isa kept disturbingly thinking and saying to me is that I am conjecturing, because the Qur'an says that people do but conjecture when it comes to things like the death of Jesus for example, but this is not conjecturing at all, this is not guessing as it leaves no space really, its based on how things have to be if it is understood correctly, but the problem is that it is rarely ever understood correctly and people can't see why it is literally necessarily how it is and based on how there is what there is this is the only case at the bottom line, this is not conjecture at all but the essentials of what there has to be and why it has to be that way.

So, much more simply put, now that it is mainly explained, what I call God and The One Power and The Great and Only Power and Mind is whatever (which I have described), whatever at all is ultimately and immediately responsible for the moments or "stuff" or information or experience which is not the same as information which it produces nor is information or made of stuff itself which is giving the appearance of change by elimination and generation which is nuanced due to its "choice" as explained.

That God or Power is undeniable, from both the direction of "There is not True Nothing, so what must there be essentially at the base for there to be anything?"
and from the direction of "What there is now, there is informationm/stuff/experience and the appearance of change, so what is the bare necessity for that to occur presently?"

Not conjecture, fully elaborated, absolutely necessary, and clearly apparent to anyone using their faculties carefully.

In other words, my God does not require blind faith or conjecturing, it is clear to see through careful reasoning based on what is necessary for there to be anything and what is necessary for there to be what is occurring now.

That which creates the appearance of change.

Because these moments are being generated and can not generate themselves as they don't exist to do so in the first place or complete the task as they are gone, this is why we are not the ones deteemining who or what we ever appear to be or do or think really as that is all information and are moments of experience, it is the power behind it selecting all those, that is why it is not conjecture regarding the no real free-will issue.
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https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Tzeentch

Post by **kFoyauextlH** » Mon Jul 21, 2025 2:15 pm

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Araby_(short_story)

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On one rainy evening, the boy secludes himself in a soundless, dark drawing-room and gives his feelings for her full release: "I pressed the palms of my hands together until they trembled, murmuring: O love! O love! many times." This scene is the culmination of the narrator's increasingly romantic idealization of Mangan's sister. By the time he actually speaks to her, he has built up such an unrealistic idea of her that he can barely put sentences together: "When she addressed the first words to me I was so confused that I did not know what to answer. She asked me if I was going to Araby. I forget whether I answered yes or no." But the narrator recovers splendidly: when Mangan's sister dolefully states that she will not be able to go to Araby, he gallantly offers to bring something back for her.
"

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Themes
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William York Tindall, noting the story's religious allusions, and finding in its ending the suggestion of an emptying church, sees the boy's journey to Araby as a futile quest for Ireland's Church.[2] Another critic, expanding on the idea, has argued that Joyce drew upon the Church's iconography to depict Mangan's sister and its liturgy to render the bazaar's closing, and that the story should be read as a parody of the Eucharist akin to "The Sisters".[3]

Romantic elements
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In "The Structure of 'Araby'", Jerome Mandel notes the shared plot archetypes between "Araby" and traditional medieval romantic literature, positing that Joyce deliberately "structured with rigorous precision upon a paradigm of medieval romance".[4] There is also an intermingling of romantic motifs with religious symbolism. When Mangan's sister ultimately talked to the narrator, "The light from the lamp opposite our door caught the white curve of her neck, lit up her hair that rested there and, falling, lit up the hand..." indicating that a part of her remained in the dark while her neck, hair and hands lit up. This is an allusion to several images of Madonna or the Virgin Mary where she is partially illuminated.[5]

Later influence
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Among later writers influenced by "Araby" was John Updike, whose oft-anthologized short story "A&P" is a 1960s American reimagining of Joyce's tale of a young man, lately the wiser for his frustrating infatuation with a beautiful but inaccessible girl. Her allure has excited him into confusing his emergent sexual impulses for those of honor and chivalry, and brought about disillusionment and a loss of innocence.[6]
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Among later writers influenced by "Araby" was John Updike, whose oft-anthologized short story "A&P" is a 1960s American reimagining of Joyce's tale of a young man, lately the wiser for his frustrating infatuation with a beautiful but inaccessible girl.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%26P_(short_story)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limerence

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Psychologist Dorothy Tennov coined the term "limerence" as an alteration of the word "amorance" without other etymologies.[5] The concept grew out of her work in the 1960s when she interviewed over 500 people on the topic of love, originally published in her book Love and Limerence.[6][7][8][9] According to Tennov, "to be in a state of limerence is to feel what is usually termed 'being in love.'"[10] She coined the term to disambiguate the state from other less-overwhelming emotions, and to avoid the implication that people who don't experience it are incapable of love.[11][12]

According to Tennov and others, limerence can be considered romantic love,[5][13][14] falling in love,[15][16][17] love madness,[1][18][2] intense infatuation,[19][17][20] passionate love with obsessive elements[9][14][21] or lovesickness.[7][22][23] Limerence is also sometimes compared and contrasted with a crush, with limerence being much more intense, impacting daily life and functioning more.[24][25][26]

Love and Limerence has been called the seminal work on romantic love, with Tennov's survey results and the various personal accounts recounted in the book largely marking the start of data collection on the phenomenon.[14][27]
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovesickness

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology ... #Obsession

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comme ... e_in_whtw/

https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Araby

https://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearni ... al_arabic/

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The 11 Stages of Love in Arabic

الْهَوَى (hawa) - Attraction. This is the beginning of love. Love that arises suddenly and not yet firm in the heart. This verb also means both to rise and to fall, indicating the unstable nature of attraction.

الْعَلاقَةُ (‘alaqah) - Attachment. Love which is inseparable from the heart and loses its temporary nature.

الْكَلَفُ (kalaf) - Infatuation. Intense love that begins to affect the lover physically by distracting the heart and even overwhelming it.

الْعِشْقُ (‘ishq) - Desire. This love exceeds the limits and takes over the heart of the lover completely, making them blind to any faults of the loved.

الشّعَفُ (sha’af) - Passion. The intensity of this love causes slight pain amidst the pleasure.

الشّغَفُ (shaghaf) - Affliction.The first stage of destructive, all-consuming love. The heart now begins to be devoured by the love.

اَلْجَوَى (jawaa) - Grief. Love that can cause illness and distress and results in sorrow or grief.

التّيْمُ (taym) - Enslavement. Love which ensalves the lover to the beloved. Love that can also drive the lover crazy.

التَّبْل (tabl) - Malady. Love which overwhelms, confounds and bewilders.

التَّدْلِيْه (tadleeh) - Disorder. Love that makes the lover not pay attention to anything and puts them in a state of complete distraction and perplexity.

الْهُيُوْمُ (huyum) - Insanity. Love which disregards all reason and drives the lover to mindlessness.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Lovecraft/comm ... n_madness/

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/commen ... _of_chaos/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ImaginaryWarha ... lev_araby/

Post by **kFoyauextlH** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:39 am

People are really getting on my nerves online.

So there was this video:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5PJh8dXJA ... ure=shared

Then this comment:

@Rich-ng3yy
6 hours ago
Why should an older woman be any more or less likely to take stuff because theyre older or female? I'm so tired of people even if well intentioned with random prejudice over age or gender or anything else, notions of demographics are for fools.

@CnutLongsword
5 hours ago
You missed his point entirely. Bit sad won’t lie.

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@Rich-ng3yy
4 hours ago
@CnutLongswordwhy do you think I missed his point? Are you sure you haven't missed mine? I understand what he means and I don't disagree with his reasoning in general. I'm not picking him up on the thrust of what he said but on another point entirely.
"

To which I replied:

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Hey "Rich", don't take this personally, since you are probably not the sort of person I'd want any interaction with if this is the sort of thing bothering you while other things are going on, but for the common folk, the hierarchy is thought to go like this:

Strong Fully Armored And Armed Muscular Physically Fit Men and to an only slightly lesser degree Women

Strong, Big Animal

Unarmored and unarmed physically fit adult man

Weaker man or older teenager but still imagined to be stronger than some ordinary women

Woman

Teenage Female

Elderly Female

Strong Pet

Child

Small Pet

Baby

Small Baby Animals

Basically it has to do with assumptions about commonly understood levels of strength that typically are expected to belong to these, so women are typically on average less strong than men on average due to biological factors, even a man who has become more frail due to aging and other conditions may still be stronger than a similarly frail female due to men having their bone density, muscle development, and other factors like their usual size very often at least making them stronger seeming, which is part of why in stories or cases about men in conflict with women, the men are considered the stronger and more threatening, even if in some possibly less common cases this might not have been the truth, it is assumed due to what is commonly believed based on an impression of having seen it to be the case.

When a nation you may favor pits fully armored and armed young and athletic adults against a starving, unarmed, frail population, commonly using overpowered weaponry against children and babies, little girls for example, it is not believed by most that such an interaction is justifiable.

So this is why you see things like "ageism" too, the women, the elderly, those with non military or non athletic jobs, those who are more intellectual and not used to fighting and conflict, who are unarmed and not doing much really, being targeted by people trained to "take down" rather stronger sorts like actual armed cr*minals, is going to be considered unfair, just like bigger and stronger adult people going after little children or animals which they may be able to overpower. Hopefully that is an acceptable explanation for why you may see people focus on the fact that someone is a female and aged.
"

So the middle aged or elderly lady who is assumed to be more fragile, facing big armored and armed police officers and resisting them is a symbol of an "underdog", though in other cases people doing similar things have been disparaged as "karens" when the people feel that they are somehow in the wrong or part of another team or belief system.

A lot of "team playing" goes around figures like this:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2PdKBuRqYw?feature=shared

Here was written:

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Hahaha, wow you stupid f*cks! Get these people out of power, all of them, or else they'll turn everywhere, your own neighborhoods, into G*z*. Get them out of power however you must, but you can't keep letting people like this pretend to be your "representatives" while working towards your harm, since the harm they work towards will reach you, you are not exempt and you won't be spared by them, these are the same who cooperate with every measure to make life worse and worse for you and your level of people while they pretend to fight on your behalf while taking bribes from lobbyists and having no ethical backbone and standing for nothing really. You have to remove them from power on all levels, you are so many more than them and their guards too, do not let yourselves be captured or *rr*sted or *mpr*soned, you have the power to *rr*st them! *rrest the p*lice if you have to, you are more, they are backing up m*ss m*rd*r and normalizing it, N*z*s were not defeated by asking them to stop or allowing yourselves and your big gatherings to be taken into their pr*son system, and all this can be solved very quickly if you use what you have intelligently to remove from power the people holding up justice.
"

There was also this horrific story which I wouldn't put it past some modern monsters to try to inflict on a populace:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C110FrdV_ ... ure=shared

This guy's voice and way of speaking and pronouncing things tends to get on people's nerves:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ibf642CCf ... ure=shared

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3KzooXHOy ... ure=shared

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=baQfeYJJk ... ure=shared

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gya8eIorw ... ure=shared

This is from the era of the "essays", which now people may feel they have less time for:

https://youtu.be/2dHnCTGD26Q?feature=shared

These games are taken so seriously by some people, like this:

https://www.reddit.com/user/Heteroclitic/

Here is something they wrote:

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Do we assume that each mortal soul accumulates a debt for each choice, each action that increases the ownership stake held by each higher being then? That simply being a Nord (or subscribing to their belief system) is a direct ticket to Sovngarde, or entering service with a Daedric Prince will postmark a soul with a mailing address for that Daedric realm. That an inscrutable force judges each mortal soul in real-time to create a detailed route for the afterlife which determines their final destination. This begs the question as to the origin or nature of this force, or the logic behind each determination. A force overseeing a constant flow of soul traffic with an eye toward every miniscule shift that may change just where each soul will find itself at the end of the road.

A postal service for souls, if you will. Sorted, shipped, tracked, and delivered.

Nevermind the mechanism for resolving disputes of ownership over souls, that is bound to be Byzantine to the point of madness. A process where every Daedra/Divine is a Karen.

Seems convoluted and overly complex. Serves no real purpose other to entertain the endless tedium of the immortal lives of higher beings. It reduces gods and monsters to the squabbling schoolchildren whom bicker over nonsense. Molag Bal, ambulance chaser.

I don't buy it for the simple reason that it accomplishes nothing. It furthers no plot at all. It provides no foundation for further lore or a framework to sharpen existing lore. It is an invitation to take ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and substitute something better.

Some subscribe to the theory that the Dreamsleeve is the conduit through which souls are recycled from Aetherius and returned to Nirn. It would be a shit garment to have but one sleeve, so let's assume there is a second sleeve which conducts souls to Aetherius after the death of a mortal. For the vast majority of people, it is a never-ending cycle of life and death. Depending on their subconscious preference, they're sorted and sent to their preferred destination based on their own expectations. Redguards wake up in the Far Shores because they're expecting to wake up in the Far Shores. It would not be based on their moral value but an exertion of the mortal spirit to bring about their afterlives.

Yet some souls do not end up in one of the various flavors of Aetherius. Some people sell their souls to third parties, such as those which enter the service of a Daedric Prince. There are those whom do so willingly and some whom are led to doing so under duress. Others have their souls stolen such as the process of soul-trapping, which would leave the Soul Cairn as a wasteland of discarded souls. The Vestige of ESO had their souls forcibly removed and sacrificed to Molag Bal. Should said sacrifice have happened within the realm of Coldharbor, it would not be difficult for Molag Bal to refuse to allow the Vestige to die (along with others in the same situation.) Those that did not have their physical bodies brought to Coldharbor are recreated as a quasi-daedric replica of themselves. The Prophet summons and uses a Skyshard to bind the Vestige to Nirn. Gameplay encourages the player to continue to use Skyshards to pick up skill points, but serves to establish the lore that the Vestige is returned after "death" due to these anchors. Aetherial magic is the force behind the body being repaired with no further repercussions as there is no soul to interfere with the consciousness remaining.

In my preferred head-canon, all souls go to Aetherius unless there is a good reason that it would be sent elsewhere. By hook or crook people can be and are denied Aetherius, sure. Yet it is a perversion of the natural order when this occurs. Unless the soul is stolen or freely given away, serving a Daedric Prince or accidents of birth such as race or status like being Dragonborn would also not prevent the soul returning to Aetherius.

I personally feel that it opens the door to more personal creativity to require a reason for a soul to not end up in Aetherius rather than presuming the four hundred thousand reasons a soul wouldn't go to Aetherius is something we should then figure out.
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Now, even though they waste a lot of time on talking about a game very seriously, they don't take it quite as seriously or in the same way as I do, as I think the things that exist in these games can relate to things in reality that are real, even recognized as real, and which in other cases are genuinely viable ways in which one can at the very least feel that they are interacting with what I would consider genuine spirituality in this reality. So they actually don't take it all that seriously, making their discussion seem even more pointless to me.

Post by **kFoyauextlH** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 5:19 am

viewtopic.php?p=2687#p2687

That is one of the ideas running through that thread, definitely, and a very serious one. The things I bring up there and collect there also have to do with "rights" and what "right" any may have or want to do certain things, since the story in Warhammer and a number of other things that seem closely related in the fantasy genre and the way modern populations are raised has to do with stories of wrongs and reprisals and capturing populations and ideologies, beliefs, and groups of people that are dehumanized and demonized and further potentially slandered as a "matter of fact", just like occurs in the modern day to reinforce ideas of what is right and what rights some may then be told they have over any others or with any others.

There is the undercurrent in that thread that has to do with oppression on different levels, as well as deception and emotion, and the dangers of extremes in becoming lost in rationalization or reaction, and efforts to suppress one or the other or both.

My way of approaching topics can sometimes be oblique and to swipe in such a way as I may bring along many things and layers I feel are relevant and maybe not immediately recognizable as related, intertwined, and influential in one direction or another or mutually between other things brought up.

I didn't purchase a 90 dollar game book which I have a digital copy of for now where seemingly the most offensive things are written about "The Dark Elves", and my interest in purchasing that annoyingly expensive book was in the brief section on their religion mainly, which is basically Ancient Middle Eastern stuff, with slightly altered, but still recognizable, names. I still might get it along with another one, and even another, but I'm going to see if extremely limited funds which should probably not be spent this way are spent on a book called "Tome Of Salvation", which covers all the religious aspects somewhat in one book. There is another competing book which is the old edition of their fantasy roleplaying game as it was in 1995, which lacks a lot of the many additions added later on. What gives these books a sense of value to me is their age and rarity due to a lack of availability, and owning books that I might not find time to even open tends to be a religious exercise in its own right. They act as reminders of aspects of the content, the most prominent that I was interested in was a crude drawing of "Khaine", seemingly one of the earliest deities they had developed, closely resembling the eventual depictions of Mehrunes Dagon from Elder Scrolls which seems to take a lot from Warhammer but denies crediting it due to issues of "rights", another example being the name Sheogorath in Elder Scrolls which may have taken from Cegorach in Warhammer, which may also have a longer lineage as Shuma Gorath, leading back to Shub Niggurath, and then to "Sheol Nugganoth", inspired by the language of the Bible and traditions like:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akerbeltz

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Akerbeltz or Aker (from Basque aker, 'billy goat' and beltz, 'black') is a spirit in the folk mythology of the Basque people. It is said to live inside the land and is believed to have as many elves as servants. In Christianity, Akerbeltz is considered the live image of the devil, performing s*xual *buses against Christians.
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Going against the people's rights.

Khaine, like many other fantasy deities, is called the Lord or God of "M*rder", which is depriving one of everything known, the use of their body and their whole ability to function and operate, similar to how people are slowly restricted increasingly until they can barely do anything before expiring:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vvANy49Kq ... ure=shared

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KIYf2mNew ... ure=shared

Khaine, in the original art by Russ Nicholson I think, resembles Kali in a masculine form.

The name is seemingly inspired by Cain from the Bible, and Dungeons and Dragons has for the "Lord Of Murder" the name Bhaal, based on Baal, both being linked to negative things in the Bible and also linked to the people of the Middle East, as was "Shub Niggurath":

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shub-Niggurath

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Lovecraft explicitly defined Shub-Niggurath as a mother goddess in The Mound, where he calls her "Shub-Niggurath, the All-Mother".[2] He describes her as a kind of Astarte in the same story.[2] In Out of the Aeons, she is one of the deities siding with humanity against "hostile gods".[3]
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astarte

They have "Atharti" and "Estreugh" in Warhammer also, but all this is "having fun" with old tropes about the "paynim foe", today sometimes called:

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015 ... hite-issue

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In the North American lexicography of racism, when new waves of immigrants entered the scene and did not quite match the binary of “white and black”, the white supremacist racism designated the term “sand n*gger” to assimilate the newcomers backward into what it knew. I first heard the nasty slur “sand n*gger” in the 1970s as a graduate student at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia, where the nascent waves of new immigrants visible in the student body had occasioned the term among the racist fraternities.

The colour codification of power in North America has been so deep-rooted that W B Dubois once famously said: “The problem of the 20th century is the problem of the colour-line.”

This was and remains true only to the degree that the US remains entrapped inside its racial history entirely oblivious to masses of new and incoming immigrants from Asia, Africa, and Latin America.

Disregarding the shades of other “colours” that keep coming in by both the self-designated “white” and the manufactured “black”, fetishises a particular instance of colour codification of power relation and confuses it with that power relation itself.

came its president and thought himself the sign of a “postracial society”. However, without awareness and an active theoretical and social integration of successive waves of newer immigrants who no longer fit the received binaries of that particular colour line, the naked brutality of racism can never be exposed and dismantled.

Colour line continues to be marker of rabid racism in the United States long after an ‘African-American’ became its president…

It was under specific historical circumstances, as historians tell us, that race-based (as opposed to faith-based) slavery became definitive to early American economy.

“In the Caribbean and Latin America,” writes Peter H Wood, the author of from Strange New Land: Africans in Colonial America, “for well over a century, Spanish and Portuguese colonisers had enslaved ‘infidels’: first Indians and then Africans.”

But that meant if they were to convert to Christianity they were to be freed, a proposition that the ruling economic elite was not ready to entertain.

cally inherited the same unfree status.”

Today African Americans are as much trapped inside that binary and refuse to let go, as are the whites – both of them categorically incapable of allowing the successive shades of new migrants confuse their colour lines. It is not the racially fabricated colour of their skin, but the gift of self-transcending grace attained through their historic trials and tribulations, that makes a people a people.

Though the sustained impact of institutionalised racism continues to bleed across the US, its discourse is alas still woefully trapped inside the black-and-white binary generated from the earliest stages of slavery to the Civil Rights Movement.

It is long overdue that the factual evidence of successive generations of immigrants from the four corners of the world into the US – categorised as “sand n*ggers” by white supremacist racism – enter the wide and widening space in between the fictitious colour lines and dismantle the racist supremacist power that seeks to sustain it.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/WarhammerFanta ... _world_8k/

The Supremacist Slave State of Naggaroth, like Shub-Niggurath, is in the shape of the United States of America. The place that looks like North Africa and the area of people like the "Moors" is called "Araby", and by extension perhaps a lot of the African people.

The descriptions used of the Dark Elves is much more like the descriptions of Muslims used by the enemies of Islam and Muslims and Muslim populations today, including linking them to many things used in real propaganda in our world, like "assassins" and their fervent devotion to Khaine with yells of "Praise Be To Khaine!", while in older editions of now largely hidden and ignored books the people of Araby simply worshipped "Allah". So the "Dark Elves" were "Canaanites", just like are in the background behind the genocidal actions in America and the Middle East in the past and the present.

That is just from Warhammer, while Dungeons & Dragons and The Elder Scrolls have their own slight variations on these modern Troubadour Tales of Questing (Crusading), where the Dark Elves act in an adversarial fashion again, as do other varieties of certain elves that tend to have "Darkness" related to them in some fashion, in the cases of Dungeons & Dragons and The Elder Scrolls they are literally darker skinned and worship demons, like the Muslims or Saracens were said to:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Termagant

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahound

Making the villainization of an entire population the obsession of a group and the wellspring for "creativity" made up of appropriation with entertaining distortions was a practice likely performed in the past and how the Bible may have come about, and how it continues to inspire populations and be used, a book of looking outwards with hubris innate to the propaganda and polemics that it defines itself by. In other words, the "other" seems perhaps most essential to that book and the ideologues it tends to be used by and for.

Post by **kFoyauextlH** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 7:15 am

In this thread:

viewtopic.php?p=2678#p2678

It was written:

atreestump wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:27 pm Let's get back to this. What do we reckon about the role of rights in society is placed primarily in the branch of government that has the least executive power - the judiciary. Everything seems to be fought in courts and not by politicians these days. This has heightened a discussion about duties and responsibilities taking primacy over rights.

This person was mentioned:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Waldron

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Waldron is a liberal and a normative legal positivist. He has written extensively on the analysis and justification of private property and on the political and legal philosophy of John Locke. He is an opponent of judicial review of legislation, and of torture, both of which he believes to be in tension with democratic principles. He believes that hate speech should not be protected by the First Amendment.[8] Waldron has also criticised analytic legal philosophy for its failure to engage with the questions addressed by political theory. His later work is devoted to providing a non-religious and non-Kantian concept of human dignity, based on a thought experiment of leveling up all human beings to the high rank of nobility or aristocracy, thus constituting a single rank or caste. He has been working on this topic since he gave the Tanner Lectures on the subject in 2009, published in 2012 as Dignity, Rank and Rights.[9]
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_positivism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_review

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_A ... nstitution

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dignity

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Waldron argued for a limited role for judicial review in a robust democratic government.[13] Waldron asserts that there is no inherent advantage to a judiciary's protection of rights than to a legislature's if (1) there is a broadly democratic political system with appropriate suffrage and process,[14] (2) there is a system of courts somewhat insulated from popular pressure and engaged in judicial review,[15] (3) there is a general commitment to rights,[16] and (4) there is disagreement as to the content and extent of rights.[17] Even so, Waldron does not argue against the existence of judicial review, which may be appropriate when there is institutional dysfunction. In this case, the defense of judicial review compatible with democracy is limited to remedies for that dysfunction and are neither unlimited nor universal. Waldron thus places his view of judicial review in the tradition of Justice Harlan Fiske Stone.[18]
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlan_Fiske_Stone

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At the end of the war, he criticized Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer for his attempts to deport aliens based on administrative action without allowing for any judicial review of their cases.[11] During this time Stone also defended free speech claims for professors and socialists.[12] Columbia soon became a center of a new school of jurisprudence, legal realism.[12] Legal realists rejected formalism and static legal rules; instead, they searched for the experiential and the role of human idiosyncrasy in the development of law.[12] Although Dean Stone encouraged the realists, he was condemned by Columbia President Nicholas Murray Butler as an intellectual conservative who had let legal education at Columbia fall "into the ruts."[13]

In 1923, disgusted by his conflict with Butler and bored with "all the petty details of law school administration" that he dubbed "administrivia", Stone resigned the deanship and joined the prestigious Wall Street firm of Sullivan & Cromwell.[14] He received a much higher salary and headed the firm's litigation department, which had a large corporation and estate practice (including J.P. Morgan Jr.'s interests).[12] In full‑time private practice for only a brief time, Stone was considered a "hard‑working, solid sort of person, willing on occasion to champion the rights of mankind, but safe nevertheless."[15]
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The Supreme Court of the mid‑1920s was primarily concerned with the relationships of business and government.[12] A majority of the justices led by Taft were staunch defenders of business and capitalism free from most government regulation.[12] The Court utilized the doctrines of substantive due process and the fundamental right of "liberty of contract" to oversee attempts at regulation by the national and state governments. Critics of the Court charged that the judiciary had usurped legislative authority and had embodied a particular economic theory, laissez faire, into its decisions.[12] Despite the fears of progressives,[12] Stone quickly joined the Court's "liberal faction",[12] frequently dissenting with Justices Holmes and Brandeis and later, Cardozo when he took Holmes' seat, from the majority's narrow view of the police powers of the state.[12] The "liberal" justices called for judicial restraint,[12] or deference to the legislative will.[12]

During the 1932 to 1937 Supreme Court terms, Stone and his colleagues Justices Brandeis and Cardozo were considered the Three Musketeers of the Supreme Court, its liberal or Democratic-aligned faction. The three were highly supportive of President Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal agenda, which many other Supreme Court Justices opposed.
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Stone's support of the New Deal brought him Roosevelt's favor, and on June 12, 1941, President Roosevelt nominated Stone to become chief justice,[17][18]
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As chief justice, Stone spoke for the Court in upholding the President's power to try N*z* saboteurs captured on American soil by military tribunals in Ex parte Quirin,[22] 317 U.S. 1 (1942). The Court's handling of this case has been the subject of scrutiny and controversy.[23]

Stone also wrote one of the major opinions in establishing the standard for state courts to have personal jurisdiction over litigants in International Shoe Co. v. Washington,[24] 326 U.S. 310 (1945).

As chief justice, Stone described the Nuremberg court as "a fraud" on Germans, even though his colleague and successor as associate justice, Robert H. Jackson, served as the chief U.S. prosecutor.[25]
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Stone was suddenly stricken while in an open session of the Supreme Court. He had just (or by some accounts not quite) finished reading aloud his dissent in Girouard v. United States.[26] Justice Hugo Black called the Court into a brief recess, and physicians were called.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QO4UbDnDH ... ure=shared

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal

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During Roosevelt's first hundred days in office in 1933 until 1935, he introduced what historians refer to as the "First New Deal", which focused on the "3 R's": relief for the unemployed and for the poor, recovery of the economy back to normal levels, and reforms of the financial system to prevent a repeat depression.[1] Roosevelt signed the Emergency Banking Act, which authorized the Federal Reserve to insure deposits to restore confidence, and the 1933 Banking Act made this permanent with the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC). Other laws created the National Recovery Administration (NRA), which allowed industries to create "codes of fair competition"; the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), which protected investors from abusive stock market practices; and the Agricultural Adjustment Administration (AAA), which raised rural incomes by controlling production. Public works were undertaken in order to find jobs for the unemployed (25 percent of the workforce when Roosevelt took office): the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) enlisted young men for manual labor on government land, and the Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) promoted electricity generation and other forms of economic development in the drainage basin of the Tennessee River.

Although the First New Deal helped many find work and restored confidence in the financial system, by 1935 stock prices were still below pre-Depression levels and unemployment still exceeded 20 percent. From 1935 to 1938, the "Second New Deal" introduced further legislation and additional agencies which focused on job creation and on improving the conditions of the elderly, workers, and the poor. The Works Progress Administration (WPA) supervised the construction of bridges, libraries, parks, and other facilities, while also investing in the arts; the National Labor Relations Act guaranteed employees the right to organize trade unions; and the Social Security Act introduced pensions for senior citizens and benefits for the disabled, mothers with dependent children, and the unemployed. The Fair Labor Standards Act prohibited "oppressive" child labor, and enshrined a 40-hour work week and national minimum wage.

In 1938, the Republican Party gained seats in Congress and joined with conservative Democrats to block further New Deal legislation, and some of it was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. The New Deal produced a political realignment, reorienting the Democratic Party's base to the New Deal coalition of labor unions, blue-collar workers, big city machines, racial minorities (most importantly African-Americans), white Southerners, and intellectuals. The realignment crystallized into a powerful liberal coalition which dominated presidential elections into the 1960s, as an opposing conservative coalition largely controlled Congress in domestic affairs from 1939 onwards.[2] Historians still debate the effectiveness of the New Deal programs, although most accept that full employment was not achieved until World War II began in 1939.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Big ... l_Bill_Act

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Taxes on social security
On July 3, Social Security Administration sent an email suggesting that federal income taxes on Social Security benefits would be eliminated under the bill, but experts say this message is misleading.[197] The bill introduces a temporary $6,000 deduction for seniors aged 65 and older with a certain income, which can reduce tax liability but does not directly eliminate taxes on Social Security benefits.[197] The deduction removes revenue that helps finance Social Security and Medicare for all beneficiaries, accelerating insolvency.[198]

Taxes on tips
The No Tax on Tips provision only affects federal income tax; it does not exempt Social Security, Medicare, state, or local taxes.[199] Since the provision takes the form of a deduction that reduces taxable income and some tipped workers can already deduct most or all of their income under existing rules, the new provision is ultimately expected to benefit roughly two thirds of tipped workers.[199][200] Workers would still need to report their cash tips as income to be taxed, but the deduction potentially reduces how much they owe.[201]

Medicaid and undocumented immigrants
The bill prompted claims that undocumented immigrants are on Medicaid.[202] Undocumented immigrants are already ineligible for full Medicaid benefits, and many undocumented immigrants access state-funded health programs rather than federal Medicaid.[203] According to a CBO analysis, the bill’s provisions could lead some states to cut back those state-funded health programs, potentially causing an estimated 1.4 million people to lose state-level health coverage, including undocumented immigrants.[204][205]

Medicaid and unemployment
When commenting on the bill's impact on the economy, USDA Secretary Brooke Rollins stated that 34 million able-bodied adults on Medicaid should be working.[206] According to the Government Accountability Office, roughly 70% of Medicaid recipients already work at least 35 hours per week but still qualify due to low wage.[207] Overall, only about 3% of Medicaid recipients are both able to work and long-term unemployed.[208]
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Post by **kFoyauextlH** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 7:15 am

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The Atlantic,[158] CNBC,[159] The New York Times,[160] and Vox[135] argued that the bill would create the largest upward transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich in American history, with Fortune[161] and CNN[162] nicknaming it the "Reverse Robin Hood Bill". Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) mockingly called the bill the "We're All Going to Die Act",[163] alluding to comments made by Republican Senator Joni Ernst (R-IA) at a town hall.[164]

Public health and policy researchers at Yale University and the University of Pennsylvania sent a letter to Senate leaders warning that cuts to health programs in the bill would lead to over 51,000 preventable deaths annually.[165][166]

Many Democratic and legal organizations have shared warnings about the expansion of immigration enforcement.[167][141] Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez shared, "I don’t think anyone is prepared for what they just did w/ ICE. This is not a simple budget increase. It is an explosion – making ICE bigger than the FBI, US Bureau of Prisons, DEA, and others combined. It is setting up to make what’s happening now look like child’s play. And people are disappearing."[167]

The nonpartisan think tank Energy Innovation found that the bill's efforts to dismantle clean energy incentives would cost more than 830,000 jobs across the country.[168] Cutting clean energy incentives would also raise energy costs for households,[169][170] with wholesale power prices rising by roughly 50 percent by 2035 due to the loss of new generation capacity.

Moody's, which rates bonds, was the final of the three credit rating agencies to downgrade U.S. debt from AAA, citing efforts to pass the bill.[171]

Polling indicates that a majority of Americans opposed its previous provisions to ban state regulation of artificial intelligence.[172][173] The provision was seen as irresponsible by researchers who believe that artificial superintelligence is imminent.[174][175][176] Others feared that it would have prevented regulation of AI-generated child pornography and deepfakes, made certain privacy laws obsolete, and further centralized power in the federal government.[177][178] Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) stated that she would have voted against the bill if it had returned to the House with the restrictions on AI legislation.[179]

Elon Musk, then-de facto head of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), denounced the bill as a massive spending bill;[180][181][182] he later called it a "disgusting abomination."[183][184] Some Republican senators have come out in support of Musk's opinion.[185] Republican opposition to the bill has been associated with the libertarian faction of the party.[186] As Rand Paul backed Musk's criticism of the bill, others have criticized Paul's Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee proposals for requiring new federal employees to be required to pay a higher FERS contribution rate if they opt for Title 5 benefits while "at will" employees would pay a lower FERS contribution rate. The concern is that the increase in the number of at-will federal employees could allow the president to eliminate a large number of employees for any reason.[187] The bill is credited with starting a public feud between Musk and Trump.[188]

John Hatton, staff vice president for policy and programs at National Active and Retired Federal Employees Association (NARFE), warned about the following:[189]

It would tax retirement benefits, creating a 5% pay cut for somebody under the system, while also undermining the merit-based civil service by having an additional 5% cut if you decide to retain those merit-based civil service protections. Those protections don’t exist for the purpose of the employee — they exist to protect against politically based firings of federal employees.

American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) National President Everett Kelley stated that:[190]

This so-called reconciliation bill is in fact a big retaliation bill—retaliation against AFGE and other unions for successfully standing up for our members and fighting this administration’s illegal attempts to obliterate our federal agencies and the patriotic civil servants who run our federal programs. These provisions represent a direct assault on federal employees and their labor unions and will make it that much harder for federal agencies to recruit and retain the qualified employees they desperately need to serve the American public.

The 2001 recipient of the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences, Joseph Stiglitz, was asked about the OBBBA in an interview with Swiss Radio and Television (SRF) as to how he would describe the legislation, to which he had replied:[191]

Outrageous. It exacerbates inequality and social division – one of the main problems of the USA. It deprives vulnerable groups of access to health care. Life expectancy is already declining, and the health differences between rich and poor are enormous. This law exacerbates this.

On June 28, the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB) said of the Senate version of the bill:[192]

Although we have not produced a full estimate of the bill, it appears to add roughly $4 trillion to the debt through 2034, including interest – which is roughly $1 trillion higher than the House-passed version of the bill. That cost could rise above $5 trillion if temporary provisions were made permanent.

The nonpartisan Tax Foundation had mixed opinions of the bill, saying it made "some smart cuts", in particular praising the extension of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 which it argued would provide stability for households. It also expressed support for its impacts on counting international business income. It criticized the political nature of the bill, calling it filled with carve-outs and political gimmicks that increased the complexity of the tax code. It also criticized the bill's non-equal application of taxation on citizens.[193]

The Economist described the bill's policies and passage as an example of "America's creeping dysfunction", criticizing its impact on increasing the deficit and describing its tax cuts as "gimmicks". It also criticized Trump's handling of the economy more broadly, saying the bill "illustrates the long-term damage Mr Trump is doing to the foundations of America's economy" and describing its passage as exacerbating the effects of Trump's attacks on the Federal Reserve, defunding of scientific research, high tariff policy, and erosion to the rule of law. It described these cumulative effects as threatening America's economic stability and making it a riskier place to invest.[194]

The New York Times criticized Trump and his Republican allies' promotion of the bill, finding they made multiple false and misleading statements about the bill's impacts with inaccurate claims.[195] It also described it as filled with "a series of novel, populist and temporary cuts that Mr. Trump cooked up during the 2024 campaign to try to win the support of key constituencies" and that it was ultimately an "apotheosis of a traditionally conservative, supply-side philosophy". It described it as "generating little additional economic growth and still returning the largest savings to the rich". It interviewed several conservative tax experts and former Republican aides who described it as "incoherent" and clinging to a traditional Republican economic agenda, only partially offering more temporary benefits to the working class paid for by cutting Medicaid and federal food assistance and refusing to raise taxes on the rich.[196]
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thatcherism

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The Daily Telegraph stated in April 2008 that the programme of the next non-Conservative government, with Tony Blair's "New Labour" organisation governing the nation throughout the 1990s and 2000s, basically accepted the central reform measures of Thatcherism such as deregulation, privatisation of key national industries, maintaining a flexible labour market, marginalising the trade unions and centralising power from local authorities to central government.[7] While Blair distanced himself from certain aspects of Thatcherism earlier in his career, in his 2010 autobiography A Journey, he argued both that "Britain needed the industrial and economic reforms of the Thatcher period" and as well that "much of what she wanted to do in the 1980s was inevitable, a consequence not of ideology but of social and economic change."[8]
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Alright, enough of that!

I was amazingly thinking of writing something on the forum, possibly a new thread but I'll probably just write it here in this thread, called "Let Me Be ("Bad")":

https://youtu.be/61i2iDz7u04?feature=shared

What that was going to be about was the idea that people use force and coercive methods and threats to make others do things that they think are good and to restrict them from or to punish them for doing things that they think are "bad", but which actually may be good thing or at least things that a person wants to do or could benefit from and which are not necessarily invasive in the way the people thinking they are doing the good are going about it.

For example, and this is just an example, one can imagine that after what we have seen and heard about the society in a certain country, and the supposed popularity of what is going on and being done there among a certain population, that one would want nothing ever to do with such people, for example refusing to do business with N*z*s or s*rial k*lling m*ss m*rderers, never to forgive them, never wanting to look at them or be around them, never wanting to enrich them or assist them, even if they merely had it in their heart and mentality to support and cheer on atrocities.

Yet that would be considered "bad", "unfair", "prejudicial", "bigoted", and every coercive measure would be put into play to make ever getting "caught" as even an "avoider" and "non-participant" and "un-cooperative" could ruin your life and prospects, and so with no other options, one might for survival have to "swallow sh*t" and let the r*pists of one's mother for example become enriched and given further power instead of being punished or k*lled as a more natural sense of justice and retribution might demand, potentially leading to such serious consequences in an unjustly "gamed" system favoring the worst predatory actors and exploiters to the detriment of the majority and the ordinary.

The mechanisms of control through threats have also gone so far as to try to impose silence in some cases and vocalizing support for things without really wanting to, lip service for ideologies and changes that don't even represent one's beliefs, things that are contrary to one's feelings and desires have to be agreed to and obeyed and participated in, even if abhorred or that they go against one's own beliefs and ideas but there is no protection from the harm that refusal may bring from those trying to impose accession. If an individual is deemed discriminatory, they can be punished, one way or another, sometimes they become open to attacks without any serious or at least less serious protections because they "asked for it" by "not doing the thing" or even just "being bad", like interpreted as "rude":

https://wyofile.com/wyoming-cites-law-t ... not-apply/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ecology/commen ... ercent_of/

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/28/nx-s1-49 ... yoming-bar

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caput_lupinum

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Caput lupinum (transl. wolf's head) or caput gerat lupinum (transl. may he wear a wolfish head) are terms used in the English legal system and its derivatives. The terms were used in Medieval England to designate a person pronounced by the authorities to be a dangerous criminal, who could thus be killed without penalty.
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The Latin term caput lupinum literally means "wolf's head" or "wolfish head", and refers to a person considered to be an outlaw, as in, e.g., the phrase caput gerat lupinum ("may he wear a wolfish head" / "may his be a wolf's head"). Black's Law Dictionary, 8th edition reads "an outlawed felon considered a pariah – a lone wolf – open to attack by anyone."[1]
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Caput lupinum or caput gerat lupinum are used in the English legal system and its derivatives.[2] The terms were used in Medieval England to designate a person pronounced by the authorities to be a dangerous criminal whose rights had been waived, who could thus be legally harmed or killed without penalty by any citizen.[3]

The term caput lupinum is first recorded in the text Leges Edwardi Confessoris as a law attributed to the 11th century ruler Edward the Confessor. This law stated that a man who refused to answer a summons from the king's justice for a criminal trial would be condemned as a Caput lupinum.[4]

The thirteenth-century writer on law, Henry de Bracton, wrote in his book De Legibus et Consuetudinibus Angliae that outlaws "gerunt caput lupinum"- "bear the wolf's head." Bracton added that this meant that outlaws could thus be killed without judicial inquiry.[5]

The fourteenth-century English legal textbook The Mirror of Justices stated that anyone who was accused of a felony, who refused three times to attend county courts, would be declared Caput lupinum or "Wolfshead". The book added ""Wolfshead!" shall be cried against him, for that a wolf is a beast hated of all folk; and from that time forward it is lawful for anyone to slay him like a wolf." [3]
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cry_Wolf

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/crybully

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a person who self-righteously harasses or intimidates others while playing the victim, especially of a perceived social injustice.
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It’s just another group of crybullies who can’t cope with anyone’s views but their own.
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Speaking of such things, I am in completely insane amounts of physical pain as I've been writing these things recently, some kind of issue in the lower intestine or something, but I do not want to go to the hospital.

So to what was written in the original post and also concerning the further things that I mentioned, I personally prefer as little interference in my life or the lives of any close to me from really anyone, but especially groups wielding their various forms of force, including governments and governing bodies and managers and "bosses" as much as possible.

Since governance can apparently only best be avoided in some ways and interaction minimized rather than done away with in the conditions of living in nations and near others "within laws", then I believe it should exclusively work in the favor of the ordinary masses, providing services and benefits for as many as possible while taking as little as possible and asking for nothing or as close to nothing as can possibly be attained, and that is what people should always be pushing for and nothing else, and should remove from power as soon as they can anyone with any evidence of power hungriness and gaming the system and resources away from public use and benefit.

People should aim to "live like Kings and Queens", at the highest standard, all, without a separated out difference between any groups or classes of people, like how society can appear divided between a few "haves" and many more "have nots".

I don't believe in or trust governance or concentrations of resources that are horded up by the trusted overseers who somehow always happen to be predatory people who purposefully chose those positions to misappropriate resources and use them to protect themselves and whoever they favor and to keep all the rest at bay with increasingly severe measures to keep them suppressed and away from prosperity and even the conditions to allow for personal growth, thought, prosperity, or happiness.

I'll say more later if I survive this, lol, the pain is way too much to continue to type any more.

This part was meant to ne the introduction only.

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