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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbombo

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Forms

 https://a-z-animals.com/reference/animal-classification/

 https://www.google.ca/amp/amp.livescience.com/51649-four-legged-snake-fossil.html

 https://www.google.ca/amp/s/churchofahriman.net/2017/01/06/old-zoroastrian-monsters-khrastar/amp/

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prototype_theory

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archetype

 http://www.kheper.net/topics/Gnosticism/glossary.html

 http://www.kheper.net/topics/Gnosticism/first_emanation.html

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Kadmon#Gnosticism

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypostasis_(philosophy_and_religion)

 http://biblehub.com/john/8-44.htm
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watcher_(angel) Enochian Angels and what each taught

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amesha_Spenta

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daeva

 https://books.google.ca/books?id=kGXelGEMdWgC&pg=PA15&lpg=PA15&dq=Amesha+Spentas+and+their+opposites&source=bl&ots=fy6kiJCiZ0&sig=3NcnLFvEE-vLQITPvCwUs6sIRfc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi9qeyumtLTAhUHwWMKHXX1Ag0Q6AEIHjAB#v=onepage&q=Amesha%20Spentas%20and%20their%20opposites&f=false
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archangel

​​​​​​ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classification_of_demons

​​​​​​ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_(Hinduism)

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protogenoi

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progenitor
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavaevodata

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundahishn

​​​​​​ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asha
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https://books.google.ca/books?id=YT-kBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA65&lpg=PA65&dq=6+Ahuramazda+Primordial+Creations&source=bl&ots=EWwnmYe34L&sig=pj3X0tbDypx_Q0j76kYR7Ts3RAY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiEosXEnNLTAhVV4WMKHaB5DpQQ6AEIKTAF#v=onepage&q=6%20Ahuramazda%20Primordial%20Creations&f=false
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Cithra: "The precise meaning of this word in this context is unknown. It is traditionally translated as "seed", which in the sense of "prototype" carries the connotation of a particular physical form or appearance. But the word can also mean "seed" in the sense of a "race, stock", which Gavaevodata – as the primordial animal – is the apical ancestor of."

https://books.google.ca/books?id=tIYRBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA345&lpg=PA345&dq=cithra+meaning+seed&source=bl&ots=RiypuxK2Cg&sig=U51OnrxIrmjpR2KW7rg0KEkSmlE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwij25yCntLTAhUV2mMKHRrsDFMQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=cithra%20meaning%20seed&f=false
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https://books.google.ca/books?id=Ypc0AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA528&lpg=PA528&dq=cithra+meaning+seed&source=bl&ots=YXiLpiDowy&sig=zhP5E_nTKOQ94Nwy-rriBRRUDlI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjOr5ewntLTAhVQHGMKHfXuCPsQ6AEILDAH#v=onepage&q=cithra%20meaning%20seed&f=false

 http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Mythology/chitra_chehr.htm
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arche
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apeiron_(cosmology)

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiji_(philosophy)

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taijitu

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amenominakanushi

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tian

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primordialism
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primordial_narcissism
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primordial_Greek_gods

​​​​​​ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adi-Buddha

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulayar%C4%81ja_Tantra

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trikaya

[Arkilogos]

Thanks for the comprehensive list of resources! 

This root word I have incorporated into my username Arki-logos, and to me it means primal pattern or an accounting of origins or even first word.

 i'm also fond of its structural meaning as an arch which brings to mind a bridge over a gap between diverse places. It remains the same and does not move whether alone in the air, entertaining a lone explorer or supporting a mass exodus. It's purpose is to be trod upon and passed over.

[kFoyauextlH]

Awesome and perfect and right, even in Archon as odering principle.

" Dobiel, also Dubbiel ("bear-god"), was the guardian angel of Ancient Persia.[1][2] According to the Talmud, Dobiel was also one of the special accusers of Israel, and once officiated in Heaven for 21 days as a proxy for Gabriel when the latter (over whom Dobiel scored a victory) was in temporary disgrace for taking pity on the Israelites when God was angry with them and convincing the Babylonians to drive them from Babylon rather than kill them.[3] [4]After coming to power in Heaven, Dobiel set about helping the Persian people at the expense of every other nation. The legend states that all of the 70 or 72 tutelary or guardian angels of nations (except Michael, protector of Israel) became corrupted through national bias.[5]

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^ Daniel 10:13 "But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days; but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I was left over there beside the kings of Persia."
^ Daniel 10:20 "Then said he: Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia; and when I go forth, lo, the prince of Greece shall come."
^ Talmud Yoma 77a.
^ Godwin, Malcolm (1990). Angels An Endangered Species. New York, NY: Simon and Schuster. p. 115. ISBN 0671706500. OCLC 21227232. Retrieved 2013-11-15. “Once the guardian angel of Persia who stood in for Gabriel when she was in temporary disgrace. As we know by now virtually all the tutelary angels of nations ended up in the nether regions. Whether this is through over-identification with the national pride of their charges, or whether the Israelites had a lot of enemies is debatable."
^ The Dictionary of Angels by Gustav Davidson, © 1967. "

[Arkilogos]

And to know ordering principle, speaks to me of reliability throughout all time. An pulse, a measure, a rhythm one can can pace oneself by. 

This brings remembrance of powers and principalities. Whereas principalities are as designated spaces, powers are as energies that inform spaces and propel matter into ever evolving forms.

[kFoyauextlH]

Absolutely, totally right again, that is what those ideas tended to refer to in their original context and it connects very much to Greek Platonic thought and Gnosticism as well. Excellent posts! I'd love for anyone to explore these ideas and write about them here if possible.

" I don't think we can say there is such a thing as an original meaning for a concept, all is supplementary and constantly conjunct. "

Oh yeah good point below (and above), I just meant that the word Arch and Archon and related words seemed to have to do with organizing and ordering. Today the word is also used in things like "character arch" and "story arch" as well, so having a beginning, middle, and end like the appearance of a structure in time or object and even a rainbow or whatever. It has associations with the triangle and the number 3 like Zeus, Poseidon, Hades governing the three realms and governance and ordering. When I said "originally", I just meant to refer to what appear to be older associations or ideas apparently attached to the term and its use where ideas like Principalities and Powers mentioned by Paul of Tarsus may have also been somewhat influenced or how they were interpreted by those in the Greek linguistic framework.

So what is below the Arch in your following statement is explained above!

[atreestump]

Absolutely, totally right again, that is what those ideas tended to refer to in their original context and it connects very much to Greek Platonic thought and Gnosticism as well. Excellent posts! I'd love for anyone to explore these ideas and write about them here if possible.


I don't think we can say there is such a thing as an original meaning for a concept, all is supplementary and constantly conjunct.

[kFoyauextlH]

Could you explain that a little more please?

[atreestump]

Happy new year and I am sorry I haven't been very active - been creating the new version of the site.

That comment was from a long time ago!

So I think we are talking about whether meaning falls from the sky or if it develops over time. I think my reply was along the lines of Dependent Origination. In that regard, we are talking the language of assemblages - origin becomes meaningless when functional relations are what produce reality and concepts, we only apply the meaning upon discivery of an assemblage and how it functions.

[kFoyauextlH]

Happy New Year! Thank You for writing more on that!

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I wanted to avoid information like this, like news stuff, but it is now so prevalent that it already made it through without my looking for anything.

One has to just remain extremely strict and narrow if the news being mentioned or other contemporary stupidity is to be avoided entirely.

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“the city-state was the centre of the Sogdian religious life.”47 Approaching the religions of
the Sogdians from the method proposed by Shenkar opens new possibilities to understanding the
presence and evolution of religious belief and practices and their contribution to forming and
developing significant social-religious contexts.
Religious practice was fundamental to the formation of common and individual spaces. These
spaces were either occupied by and devoted to a single religion, or were spaces shared between several
religions. The city as a whole can be regarded as a shared space of which parts were occupied by
individual religions (e.g., religious architecture and burial grounds), as the sole space devoted to that
religion. In addition, religions required production spaces, such as workshops for making cult objects,
etc.
There were “physical-real” spaces where these religions were displayed and acknowledged
through their ritual performance and customs. These were temples or shrines located in public spaces
and also private chapels in individual homes. In addition, there were “physical-invisible” spaces where
these religions were exhibited. Among this group of spaces, one can include the geoscapes where the
religions were practiced or known; these places were given names echoing the names of various
divinities or possibly a once-existing temple or shrine dedicated to them.48 These toponyms were
physical but functioned by providing “thought images” of the religions and pantheons that were
attached to physical landmarks. Hearing these names or referring to these places ultimately invoked
religious and spiritual sentiments that linked the name with not just a place but also lived personal
experiences. Further, in the shared public space one can include the workshops producing inventories
of religious products such as ceramic icons depicting deities or ossuaries decorated with motifs
communicating religious rituals and beliefs.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domitian

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Historian Brian Jones concludes in The Emperor Domitian that assessing the true nature of Domitian's personality is inherently complicated by the bias of the surviving sources.[29] Common threads nonetheless emerge from the available evidence. He appears to have lacked the natural charisma of his brother and father. He was prone to suspicion, displayed an odd, sometimes self-deprecating sense of humour,[30][31] and often communicated in cryptic ways. This ambiguity of character was further exacerbated by his remoteness, and as he grew older, he increasingly displayed a preference for solitude, which may have stemmed from his isolated upbringing.[19] Indeed, by the age of eighteen nearly all of his closest relatives had died by war or disease. Having spent the greater part of his early life in the twilight of Nero's reign, Domitian's formative years would have been strongly influenced by the political turmoil of the 60s, culminating with the civil war of 69, which brought his family to power.[32]
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Domitian had a minor and largely ceremonial role during the reigns of his father and brother. After the death of his brother, Domitian was declared emperor by the Praetorian Guard. His 15-year reign was the longest since Tiberius. As emperor, Domitian strengthened the economy by revaluing the Roman coinage, expanded the border defenses of the empire, and initiated a massive building program to restore the damaged city of Rome. Significant wars were fought in Britain, where his general Agricola made significant gains in his attempt to conquer Caledonia (Scotland), and in Dacia (Modern-day Romania), where Domitian was unable to achieve a decisive victory against King Decebalus. Domitian's government exhibited strong authoritarian characteristics. Religious, military, and cultural propaganda fostered a cult of personality, and by nominating himself as perpetual censor, he sought to control public and private morals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_censor

As a consequence, Domitian was popular with the people and the army, but considered a tyrant by members of the Roman Senate. Domitian's reign came to an end in 96 when he was assassinated by court officials. He was succeeded the same day by his advisor Nerva. After his death, Domitian's memory was condemned to oblivion by the Senate, while senatorial and equestrian authors such as Tacitus, Pliny the Younger, and Suetonius propagated the view of Domitian as a cruel and paranoid tyrant. Modern revisionists have instead characterized Domitian as a ruthless but efficient autocrat whose cultural, economic, and political programs provided the foundation of the peaceful second century.
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As emperor, Domitian quickly dispensed with the republican facade his father and brother had maintained during their reign.[73] By moving the centre of government to the imperial court, Domitian openly rendered the Senate's powers obsolete.[74] According to Pliny the Younger, Domitian believed that the Roman Empire was to be governed as a divine monarchy with himself as the benevolent despot at its head.[75] In addition to exercising absolute political power, Domitian believed the emperor's role encompassed every aspect of daily life, guiding the Roman people as a cultural and moral authority.[76] To usher in the new era, he embarked on ambitious economic, military, and cultural programs with the intention of restoring the Empire to the splendour it had seen under the Emperor Augustus.[77]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavian_Palace

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabirius_(architect)

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"...if anyone who is amazed at the costliness of the Capitol had seen a single colonnade in the palace of Domitian.....he would have been moved to say to Domitian: Tis not pious, nor nobly ambitious that thou art; thou art diseased; thy mania is to build; like the famous Midas, thou desirest that every thing become gold and stone at thy touch."[94]
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Domitian's tendency towards micromanagement was nowhere more evident than in his financial policy. The question of whether Domitian left the Roman Empire in debt or with a surplus at the time of his death has been fiercely debated. The evidence points to a balanced economy for the greater part of Domitian's reign.[98] Upon his accession he revalued the Roman currency dramatically. He increased the silver purity of the denarius from 90% to 98% – the actual silver weight increasing from 2.87 grams to 3.26 grams. A financial crisis in 85 forced a devaluation of the silver purity and weight to 93.5% and 3.04 grams respectively.[99][100] Nevertheless, the new values were still higher than the levels that Vespasian and Titus had maintained during their reigns. Domitian's rigorous taxation policy ensured that this standard was sustained for the following eleven years.[100] Coinage from this era displays a highly consistent degree of quality including meticulous attention to Domitian's titulature and refined artwork on the reverse portraits.[100]

Jones estimates Domitian's annual income at more than 1.2 billion sestertii, of which over one-third would presumably have been spent maintaining the Roman army.[98]

In order to appease the people of Rome an estimated 135 million sestertii was spent on donatives, or congiaria, throughout Domitian's reign.[101] The Emperor also revived the practice of public banquets, which had been reduced to a simple distribution of food under Nero, while he invested large sums on entertainment and games. In 86 he founded the Capitoline Games in his stadium, a quadrennial contest comprising athletic displays, chariot racing, and competitions for oratory, music and acting.[102]
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The censor was a magistrate in ancient Rome who was responsible for maintaining the census, supervising public morality, and overseeing certain aspects of the government's finances.[1]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_tribe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribal_assembly

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It organised citizens, by the middle republic, into thirty-five artificial tribes which were assigned by geography. The composition of the tribes packed the urban poor into four tribes out of the thirty-five. The requirement that citizens vote in person also discriminated against the rural poor who were not able to travel to Rome.

Each tribe possessed an internal structure and a single vote in the assembly, regardless of the number of citizens belonging to that tribe, which was determined by a majority of the citizens of that tribe present at a vote. Legislative proposals in the assembly as a whole passed when a majority of tribes voted in favour; elections similarly continued until a majority of tribes approved of sufficient candidates that all posts were filled.

The tribal assembly and the plebeian council were organised identically. What differed between them was the presiding magistrate, with the tribal assembly convened by consuls, praetors, or aediles and the plebeian council convened by plebeian tribunes. After the lex Hortensia in 287 BC endowed the plebeian council with full legislative powers, the two assemblies became practically identical.[1]
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The comitia tributa in the classical republic was responsible for the election of military tribunes, quaestors, and curule aediles. It also had the power to enact legislation and try non-capital cases.[2] Because it was simpler than the comitia centuriata, by the middle and late republic, the tribal assembly had become the main form of legislative assembly.[3][4]

Like the other comitia the tribal assembly, as the embodiment of the people, was sovereign.[5] However, the fact that the business brought before it was entirely controlled by the aristocratic magistrates – the people had no right of initiative and could only vote on proposals brought by those magistrates – meant that the people had a largely passive role in the legislative process.[6]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_initiative

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaestor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gens

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_gentes