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The music is funny and manipulative.



Do you see that guy's nose? I'm not kidding completely when I say that is a Ganesha devotee. Not only was he most likely born into a family of such, but a further affinity may have been formed due to Ganesha's trunk resembling his nose, his nose forming like that due to possibly close genetic ties in some area then emphasizing and oversizing that specific feature.

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@SubcontinentIndex
1 year ago
🤣🤣The Hindus have secularized the temples there. I understand Lincoln & Einstein were great people, but what the hell are they doing inside the TEMPLE.
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Wow, the lyrics. Tik Tok is a major spreader of "New Religion" that is highly gamified. It is connected, like other social media, to increased mental issues like depression and anxiety, "Psychic Spies From China Try To Steal Your Mind's Elation", how the hell? That was way ahead of its time, and was maybe trying to be like paranoid schizophrenic mumbo jumbo. Tik Tok and other similar things, along with all social media, have been accused of spying and being intelligence operations on an unprecedented scale bypassing all kinds of laws and regulations concerning such things (where were never protecting anyone truly anyway).

Songs don't even have lyrics anymore, like saying anything felt too dangerous to control freaks.









Haha, atheists are such *ssh*les too, they don't even try to figure out what people are thinking and doing, they just impose the stuff they think and think they understand and make it universal, like Orientalism basically, it is despicable what they do so casually.
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https://i.pinimg.com/736x/89/aa/bd/89aa ... 83d8a3.jpg

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/uct.htm

This other site has terribly annoying ads on the phone:

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Sliggs_(Earth-616)

I like Sliggs for several reasons, starting with the name, since I'm a big fan of camp done in a very specific way that walks the tightrope between silliness and seriousness without going "meta" either.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metagame

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_(prefix)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-referential_humor

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metatheory

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalanguage

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metagam ... ive_gaming

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backronym

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A backronym is an acronym formed from an already existing word by expansion of its letters into the words of a phrase. Backronyms may be invented with either serious or humorous intent, or they may be a type of false etymology or folk etymology. The word is a portmanteau of back and acronym.[1]
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A normal acronym is a word derived from the initial letter(s) of the words of a phrase,[2] such as radar from "radio detection and ranging".[3] By contrast, a backronym is "an acronym deliberately formed from a phrase whose initial letters spell out a particular word or words, either to create a memorable name or as a fanciful explanation of a word's origin".[1] Many fictional espionage organizations are backronyms, such as SPECTRE (special executive for counterintelligence, terrorism, revenge and extortion) from the James Bond franchise.

For example, the Amber Alert missing-child program was named after Amber Hagerman, a nine-year-old girl who was abducted and murdered in 1996.[4] Officials later publicized the backronym "America's Missing: Broadcast Emergency Response".[5]
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Lol, I'm not bringing up backronyms for no reason either, it has to do with changing meanings while continuing to use things. One of the most misleading is "metagaming" since it should mean something else if one looks at other words using "meta" but it is a dumb, nerd-created backronym that has nothing at all to do with "meta", except that it secretly does, in a way that few people, if any might perceive, and that has to do with the "meta" of "strategy", which is like the imagined "World Of God(s)" overlooking a game or writing reality, the discussion of strategy is like the other "meta" things.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metacognition

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Metacognition is an awareness of one's thought processes and an understanding of the patterns behind them. The term comes from the root word meta, meaning "beyond", or "on top of".[1] Metacognition can take many forms, such as reflecting on one's ways of thinking, and knowing when and how oneself and others use particular strategies for problem-solving.[1][2] There are generally two components of metacognition: (1) cognitive conceptions and (2) a cognitive regulation system.[3][4] Research has shown that both components of metacognition play key roles in metaconceptual knowledge and learning.[5][6][4] Metamemory, defined as knowing about memory and mnemonic strategies, is an important aspect of metacognition.[7]
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Metacognition has two interacting phenomena guided by a person's cognitive regulation:[2]

Metacognitive knowledge (also called metacognitive awareness) is what individuals know about themselves and others like beliefs about thinking and such, as cognitive processors.
Metacognitive experiences are those experiences that have something to do with the current, on-going cognitive endeavor.
Metacognition refers to a level of thinking and metacognitive regulation, the regulation of cognition and subsequent learning experiences that help people enhance their learning through a set of activities. It involves active metacognitive control or attention over the process in learning situations. The skills that aid in regulation involve planning the way to approach a learning task, monitoring comprehension, and evaluating progress towards the completion of a task.

Metacognition includes at least three different types of metacognitive awareness when considering metacognitive knowledge:[17]

Declarative knowledge: refers to knowledge about oneself as a learner and about what factors can influence one's performance.[3] Declarative knowledge can also be referred to as "world knowledge".[18]
Procedural knowledge: refers to knowledge about doing things. This type of knowledge is displayed as heuristics and strategies.[3] A high degree of procedural knowledge can allow individuals to perform tasks more automatically. This is achieved through a large variety of strategies that can be accessed more efficiently.[19]
Conditional knowledge: refers to knowing when and why to use declarative and procedural knowledge.[20] It allows students to allocate their resources when using strategies. This in turn allows the strategies to become more effective.[21]
These types of metacognitive knowledge also include:

Content knowledge (declarative knowledge), which involves understanding of one's own capabilities, such as a student evaluating their own knowledge of a subject in a class. It is notable that not all metacognition is accurate. Studies have shown that students often mistake lack of effort with understanding in evaluating themselves and their overall knowledge of a concept.[22] Also, greater confidence in having performed well is associated with less accurate metacognitive judgment of the performance.[23]
Task knowledge (procedural knowledge), which is how one perceives the difficulty of a task which is the content, length, and the type of assignment. The study mentioned in Content knowledge also deals with a person's ability to evaluate the difficulty of a task related to their overall performance on the task. Again, the accuracy of this knowledge was skewed as students who thought their way was better/easier also seemed to perform worse on evaluations, while students who were rigorously and continually evaluated reported to not be as confident but still did better on initial evaluations.
Strategic knowledge (conditional knowledge) is one's own capability for using strategies to learn information. Young children are not particularly good at this; it is not until students are in upper elementary school that they begin to develop an understanding of effective strategies.
In short, strategic knowledge involves knowing what (factual or declarative knowledge), knowing when and why (conditional or contextual knowledge) and knowing how (procedural or methodological knowledge).

Similar to metacognitive knowledge, metacognitive regulation or "regulation of cognition" contains three skills that are essential.[3][24]

Planning: refers to the appropriate selection of strategies and the correct allocation of resources that affect task performance.
Monitoring: refers to one's awareness of comprehension and task performance
Evaluating: refers to appraising the final product of a task and the efficiency at which the task was performed. This can include re-evaluating strategies that were used.
Metacognitive control is an important skill in cognitive regulation, it is about focusing cognitive resources on relevant information.[25] Similarly, maintaining motivation to see a task to completion is also a metacognitive skill that is closely associated with the attentional control. The ability to become aware of distracting stimuli – both internal and external – and sustain effort over time also involves metacognitive or executive functions. Swanson (1990) found that metacognitive knowledge can compensate for IQ and lack of prior knowledge when comparing fifth and sixth grade students' problem solving. Students with a better metacognition were reported to have used fewer strategies, but solved problems more effectively than students with poor metacognition, regardless of IQ or prior knowledge.[26]

A lack of awareness of one's own knowledge, thoughts, feelings, and adaptive strategies leads to inefficient control over them. Hence, metacognition is a necessary life skill that needs nurturing to improve one's quality of life. Maladaptive use of metacognitive skills in response to stress can strengthen negative psychological states and social responses, potentially leading to psychosocial dysfunction. Examples of maladaptive metacognitive skills include worry based on inaccurate cognitive conceptions, rumination, and hypervigilance. Continuous cycles of negative cognitive conceptions and the associated emotional burden often lead to negative coping strategies such as avoidance and suppression. These can foster pervasive learned helplessness and impair the formation of executive functions, negatively affecting an individual's quality of life.[27]

The theory of metacognition plays a critical role in successful learning, and it's important for both students and teachers to demonstrate understanding of it. Students who underwent metacognitive training including pretesting, self evaluation, and creating study plans performed better on exams.[28] They are self-regulated learners who utilize the "right tool for the job" and modify learning strategies and skills based on their awareness of effectiveness. Individuals with a high level of metacognitive knowledge and skill identify blocks to learning as early as possible and change "tools" or strategies to ensure goal attainment. A broader repertoire of "tools" also assists in goal attainment. When "tools" are general, generic, and context independent, they are more likely to be useful in different types of learning needs. In one study examining students who received text messages during college lectures, it was suggested that students with higher metacognitive self-regulation were less likely than other students to have their learning affected by keeping mobile phones switched on in classes.[29]

Finally, there is no distinction between domain-general and domain-specific metacognitive skills. This means that metacognitive skills are domain-general in nature and there are no specific skills for certain subject areas. The metacognitive skills that are used to review an essay are the same as those that are used to verify an answer to a math question.[30]

Related concepts
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A number of theorists have proposed a common mechanism behind theory of mind, the ability to model and understand the mental states of others, and metacognition, which involves a theory of one's own mind's function. Direct evidence for this link is limited.[31]

Several researchers have related mindfulness to metacognition. Mindfulness includes at least two mental processes: a stream of mental events and a higher level awareness of the flow of events.[32] Mindfulness can be distinguished from some metacognition processes in that it is a conscious process.[33]: 137 
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Wikipedia is every literally treated like "The Word Of God" by an extremely large amount of human beings from all around the world.
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This woman is so freaking scary. She repeated the same stories in the comment section.

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@LoreTheDarkElf
1 year ago
My faith broke in parts.

First happened when I was 8, when I felt far more Moved and Connected when out in the world, not in a building.

Next came around 10, when I told my parents I didn't want to go to church and basically got told I Didn't Get A Choice. I didn't understand, since sermons about choice and free will made it sound like it was my choice, that it was up to me how often and where I honored my relationship with God. When that was denied to me, I realized it was about control.

This was when I started idiating on a fantasy series I'm STILL DEVELOPING, 22 years later, because reasons.

The final blow came at 14. I'm aging out of Sunday School and starting classes for Confirmation ( church coming of age, first communion, ect ). At this time my specific denomination of the Lutheran church had just voted to allow gays to be pastors, and a lot of old folks in my church were so mad about it they wanted to split off into a new branch.

I asked why folks were upset, during Sunday School, because it didn't make sense to me. I'd sat through sermons and songs about all being welcome and none being closer to god than another- if we are all unclean, if we all sin, but are all capable of standing up and preaching, why not gay folks too? If they can enter the church, why can't they hold the door open for someone else?

I think I got as far as "Why are all the older folks mad about gay people being pastors" before my Sunday school teacher shouted me down so angrily I cannot remember his expression; just the white knuckles of his clenched fists. I remember crying. I don't remember the content of the rest of the class.

After that, my faith was stone dead. I went through the motions to make my mum happy, and hated every second until I was free to escape that church, that house, and that town altogether.

@spectreone
1 year ago
Think of it as a logical contradiction. You can't consider yourself a follower of God, if you are consciously going against it's will.

If you are a christian, it is because you are following the rules of God, and a pastor is someone that GUIDES you through those rules and the word of God, so if someone that is supposed to guide you doesn't follow the rules of it's own God, then it is as if he wasn't christian at all.
And yes, even pastors commit sins, but what is different between commiting a sin, repent and then change your ways to not doing it again, and "spread God's words" being a gay pastor, is that the gay pastors are consciously commiting the same sin over and over, contradicting the words of their God that they are supposed to spread.

With this we can say that if you are in a gay relationship, then you can't consider yourself a pastor because that's just a contradiction. But what about people that seek God, and are gay? They can (in an ideal christian church), as everyone else, enter the church and listen, and even if they continue to be gay, that won't change the fact that they can still enter the church and listen just as every single person should (again, in an ideal church. We are not talking about those that don't welcome gay people and others, because they are directly contradicting the teachings of God, therefore, that shouldn't be considered as a christian church), but they can't say that the are christian/followers of God,because they consciously sin, and as I said earlier, that's a direct contradiction.

This means you have to force yourself to stop being gay or something? No, it means that you can't be two things at the same time that cause a contradiction.
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@LukeStonePharmD
1 year ago
My personal journey was much shorter. One day I realized I couldn't believe in Hell. 5 minutes later, I didn't believe any of it anymore.

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@jamesmorgan1967
1 year ago
I love this comment.

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@LukeStonePharmD
1 year ago (edited)
@Richdragon4 once Hell was gone, the rest seemed... trivial.

@chadkline4268
1 year ago
Well, you're wrong. Various conditions led to your awareness binding to this body+mind consciousness. As long as those conditions remain, you will bind again, somewhere, someplace. And you cannot choose the destination.

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@chamicels
1 year ago (edited)
@chadkline4268 haha

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@chadkline4268
1 year ago (edited)
@chamicels I don't know why that's funny. Don't you think causes create effects? Or do you believe in magic? Something made you bind to a body+mind that will cause you a lot of stress, suffering, illness, grief, and death. Why are you bound to a body+mind that will make you experience much pain? Why do you think you are free from binding again?

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@chadkline4268
1 year ago (edited)
@chamicels when you go to bed and sleep, you will unbind from sensory consciousness and bind to dream consciousness. And when you wake up, you will unbind from dream consciousness, and bind back to sensory consciousness. So, you already know that you can bind and unbind to different types of consciousness. Why do you think you can't bind to a consciousness in Hell? Do you think evil people die the same as Mother Theresa?

@linkkhanato6320
1 year ago (edited)
@chadkline4268 I mean binding is kind of BS when you consider that if you switched consciousness you would simply go from one state to the other. Despite this you are implying that somehow dreaming still takes place in another bind despite the fact that its effects can be seen on the normal body. There is no switch of consciousness from one to the other it happens on the same brain all the time. It's just a different part of the body even by that logic.

With that said I think the reason why they are laughing is because I...have no f*cking clue what that has to do with hell. Everyone believes in magic, we do it all the time while using amazing devices like this to communicate with one another, so clearly there is some crazy sh*t this world has for us. There is also no lightning being struck by heavenly beings whenever someone commits a crime so we all know that there if something is lurking beneath spacetime it seems to have alot of reasons to not care thus far. Perhaps that's were the magic ends.

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@LukeStonePharmD
1 year ago (edited)
@chadkline4268 All hail Flying Spaghetti Monster

@LukeStonePharmD
1 year ago
I will add not believing in Hell took a lot of thought. It was just the string that when pulled unraveled the rest.

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@chadkline4268
1 year ago (edited)
@LukeStonePharmD beliefs are silly. They will die with your brain. Waste of time. None of you are analyzing sentience. None of you are making conclusions rooted in reality.

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@LukeStonePharmD
1 year ago (edited)
@chadkline4268 by the same reasoning, your whole life is silly, why bother living? And you are also wrong. These beliefs exist as memes. They take life beyond the individual. The individual will cease, but the ideas are notoriously hard to kill. I feel that fighting in the face of the inevitable heat death of the universe is a noble act. Knowing it is futile and fighting anyway? That's not a waste of time, it's f**king heroic.

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@AegixDrakan
1 year ago (edited)
@chadkline4268 "Do you think evil people die the same as Mother Theresa?"

You just wrote Mother Teresa twice. (Seriously, look up what she actually did, some of it's genuinely awful)

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@chadkline4268
1 year ago (edited)
@LukeStonePharmD I asked that you read my post in the main comment section first. No, you're wrong about everything.

@chadkline4268
1 year ago (edited)
@AegixDrakan haha, ok, funny. But the point remains. Do you think a monk dies the same as Ted Bundy? 🤡 is that better? 😆

@aFoxyFox.
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Chad Kline can't seem to get back to the point of doubting what they are so sure is the correct narrative for what they are experiencing. They could be wrong and I think they are. What is binding? What is it that you are suggesting is going and binding. What makes you think that? Is anything else conceivable? You think those are not beliefs? You're hypnotized, maybe by yourself. What if you were to somehow understand there is nothing binding, those things you think are being "binded to" are not being "binded to" by anything, they are the things themselves, nothing else is interacting with them. Inconceivable right? Why do you think so? You are so heated by what you are certain of. Try harder, like how cool things harden. If certainty has you seeming so hot, imagine how hard it is for you to be the clown, just like all of these convinced people are so sure that they aren't. I see a joke, and you wonder if the people laughing know it.
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Where are you getting these conversations from?
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YouTube and Reddit, usually within or under whatever I've linked above it. They are out of a large number of interactions I read, which make me consider some things, and they are sometimes next to impossible to find again, especially when there are numerous comments overall and sometimes their order seems to change also amd they appear in things that I have to expand. I used to interact with thousands of people regularly since the early days of the internet becoming more popular and mainstream, starting in the 90s. It has switched over now to just seeing other people interacting briefly, and the nature of the interactions have changed a lot too. The different way that certain age groups interact based on the clues provided in their styles are also interesting to me.

I was thinking about how these platforms have become some of the most visited websites in the entire world, and how people are increasingly using it as their go-to and source for both entertainment and knowledge, except barely anyone on it appears to be what I'd consider intelligent or even entertaining for most part, almost ever.

I was also thinking about how you and I are very smart probably, and that there is no apparent correlation between intelligence and opportunities and financial success, and how so many total jerks and morons seem to get all kinds of opportunities and wealth in ways that didn't depend on much or even any intelligence really. There are so many smart and entertaining, creative people, and we hear nothing of most of them.

I put the formula racing above because I was thinking about how horse racing is gambling and so is this racing, apparently very little skill and barely any differences account for who ends up winning, losing, crashing.

This is in the thread about "Gods" and deconstructing religious abd magical thinking and superstition for a reason.

If you think that there may be an issue with collecting people's comments from YouTube and Reddit here on this site, I can do that on the other site instead and just discuss things here without the sources or quotes directly if there is any issue about it like copyright or something.

I go through pages upon pages of words and images and sounds and songs daily, songs the least probably and words the most, and I've been doing that ever since I've been on the internet and even before the internet by watching lots of films and cartoons and reading lots of books and comics, it has been practically ceaseless.

The people making online content rarely seem to even offer any connections they have personally made, nothing seems like an original thought or that they are putting themselves out there, it so often, if not always, appears like parroting, quoting, lacking originality, putting them in camps, not tying various ideas or experiences. It basically sucks, and I think people are likely getting stupider by thinking that is how to think abd communicate themselves.

I like getting an idea of what the contemporary sentiments may be in certain places and how people are thinking and interacting.
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