Name that Philosophy!
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Re: Name that Philosophy!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correspondence_theory_of_truth
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atreestump
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Re: Name that Philosophy!
Great question actually. I suppose all I can in any sense create for others through description is a world of ideas, which are things too or made of things but I can't get my things to them, I can only assume they are generating things which are at least close enough conceptually to agree upon or pretend we are understood.
Sounds a lot like a form of Idealism, maybe Actual Idealism.
Re: Name that Philosophy!
Historically, most advocates of correspondence theories have been ontological realists; that is, they believe that there is a world external to the minds of all humans. This is in contrast to metaphysical idealists who hold that everything that exists is, in the end, just an idea in some mind. However, it is not strictly necessary that a correspondence theory be married to ontological realism. It is possible to hold, for example, that the facts of the world determine which statements are true and to also hold that the world (and its facts) is but a collection of ideas in the mind of some supreme being.[6]
From wiki correspondance theory.
From wiki correspondance theory.
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kFoyauextlH
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Re: Name that Philosophy!
I guess I don't hold any of those to be very representative of what I tend to say or think.
I don't believe in a difference between things thought and things experienced, I think both are experiences and made of the same stuff ultimately.
I don't believe in time or consistency, I am under the impression that history can not really be verified but can be implanted at the moment which is all we have access to, that our memories and everything are just existing now and we have no verification of anything really or way to prove it really was there a moment ago and in truth whatever we are accessing wasn't there "as is" meaning what we are actually accessing, the vision, is unique and new and completely ours while the thing it may refer to may have no other forms except what we are apparently experiencing moment to moment.
This eliminates a few things. It eliminates a separation between man, body, environment, eliminates time, eliminates the usual definition of memory.
All it leaves is a layer called experience, which can be anything that can be seen or experienced, it for me right now is including seeing my hands typing. One moment they seem to be in one position, another they seem to be in another position, the experience of them being in a former position is gone, if it was present then that is what I would be experiencing.
These are not brought about by any power or force of my own, but a power I credit as being greater than the experience which I am, is responsible for this shifting activity.
In reality, or my delusion anyway, nothing at all is really moving. I am always in the same place, and I don't really have any being of my own, the I or element of me which remains consistent, Experiencer, is what is generating and experiencing these experiences which give the impression of movement, space, and other people. I can not really touch them, or know them, they are just things made up as far as I am experiencing them. If they are viewing anything, it has nothing to do with what I am experiencing, and they would be in the same position as me, a completely independent and cut off screen of made up information.
There is nothing "more real" and nothing "less real" than experience. Experience is the "stuff" that we call real as well as the "stuff" we call unreal, imaginary, fake, thought of. There is no real distinction except that we way this is this and that is that, but experience is one and the only form of "stuff".
The closest any philosophy seems to get to this is Occassionalism.
Even though I say these things and can logically reason them, I still play by the normal rules of the experience and there is not much I can do about it or anything. Knowing this is just a little bit to understand more, but is largely futile and irrelevant, except it completely changes how one views and interacts with life and interprets events.
Not believing in time or reality in the normal sense opens the mind up to an unstable and fearful world of inconsistencies and miracles. In an instant I can be disease riddled and in the next as if I have never had a disease in my life, or I can be a different person with different thoughts and remember my whole life as if I lived any of it. I could have different beliefs or be a criminal or a retard or a priest uttering falsehoods and blasphemies or having an affair. I could be sad or happy, I could remember a tragedy that just occurred or wake up and think it was just a dream. Nothing is safe, nothing is protected. There is no love or loyalty or trust, except when there is, and it can be taken away just as instantly as it was made part of an experience.
So anything good we get is a free gift, no merit of our own or credit. Anything bad we get is the same. This is why the wise are perpetually afraid but also believe they can be saved as well.
The power responsible for everything is out of control and can not be controlled but is controlling all experience, which includes all thought, all decision, all supposed causation or supposed chain of events it makes up as part of an instance or experience.
That is all we call God, whatever is ultimately responsible for this.
I reject the stars and the rocks and the planets and that the Earth is round or flat, that there is for me anything on the other side of a wall until there is, I am no person, just an experience here and there.
I don't believe in a difference between things thought and things experienced, I think both are experiences and made of the same stuff ultimately.
I don't believe in time or consistency, I am under the impression that history can not really be verified but can be implanted at the moment which is all we have access to, that our memories and everything are just existing now and we have no verification of anything really or way to prove it really was there a moment ago and in truth whatever we are accessing wasn't there "as is" meaning what we are actually accessing, the vision, is unique and new and completely ours while the thing it may refer to may have no other forms except what we are apparently experiencing moment to moment.
This eliminates a few things. It eliminates a separation between man, body, environment, eliminates time, eliminates the usual definition of memory.
All it leaves is a layer called experience, which can be anything that can be seen or experienced, it for me right now is including seeing my hands typing. One moment they seem to be in one position, another they seem to be in another position, the experience of them being in a former position is gone, if it was present then that is what I would be experiencing.
These are not brought about by any power or force of my own, but a power I credit as being greater than the experience which I am, is responsible for this shifting activity.
In reality, or my delusion anyway, nothing at all is really moving. I am always in the same place, and I don't really have any being of my own, the I or element of me which remains consistent, Experiencer, is what is generating and experiencing these experiences which give the impression of movement, space, and other people. I can not really touch them, or know them, they are just things made up as far as I am experiencing them. If they are viewing anything, it has nothing to do with what I am experiencing, and they would be in the same position as me, a completely independent and cut off screen of made up information.
There is nothing "more real" and nothing "less real" than experience. Experience is the "stuff" that we call real as well as the "stuff" we call unreal, imaginary, fake, thought of. There is no real distinction except that we way this is this and that is that, but experience is one and the only form of "stuff".
The closest any philosophy seems to get to this is Occassionalism.
Even though I say these things and can logically reason them, I still play by the normal rules of the experience and there is not much I can do about it or anything. Knowing this is just a little bit to understand more, but is largely futile and irrelevant, except it completely changes how one views and interacts with life and interprets events.
Not believing in time or reality in the normal sense opens the mind up to an unstable and fearful world of inconsistencies and miracles. In an instant I can be disease riddled and in the next as if I have never had a disease in my life, or I can be a different person with different thoughts and remember my whole life as if I lived any of it. I could have different beliefs or be a criminal or a retard or a priest uttering falsehoods and blasphemies or having an affair. I could be sad or happy, I could remember a tragedy that just occurred or wake up and think it was just a dream. Nothing is safe, nothing is protected. There is no love or loyalty or trust, except when there is, and it can be taken away just as instantly as it was made part of an experience.
So anything good we get is a free gift, no merit of our own or credit. Anything bad we get is the same. This is why the wise are perpetually afraid but also believe they can be saved as well.
The power responsible for everything is out of control and can not be controlled but is controlling all experience, which includes all thought, all decision, all supposed causation or supposed chain of events it makes up as part of an instance or experience.
That is all we call God, whatever is ultimately responsible for this.
I reject the stars and the rocks and the planets and that the Earth is round or flat, that there is for me anything on the other side of a wall until there is, I am no person, just an experience here and there.
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atreestump
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Re: Name that Philosophy!
In reality, or my delusion anyway, nothing at all is really moving. I am always in the same place, and I don't really have any being of my own, the I or element of me which remains consistent, Experiencer, is what is generating and experiencing these experiences which give the impression of movement, space, and other people. I can not really touch them, or know them, they are just things made up as far as I am experiencing them. If they are viewing anything, it has nothing to do with what I am experiencing, and they would be in the same position as me, a completely independent and cut off screen of made up information.
In this sense, Occassionalism may not be far off Descartes radical scepticism, you are a thing that experiences and those experiences are due to God who can be the foundation of certainty.
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Which is known as metaphysical idealism.
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kFoyauextlH
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Yeah, similar to Decartes, I lay around imagining there is really only an Evil Daemon who produces Experiences (such as me being me) and manipulates them but is not convinced by them or absorbed by them, thus retaining control or power of change which I as an experience can not seem to harness while it can, since it is something different.