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Name that Philosophy!
I thought it might be useful to have a thread where people can describe a philosophy to see what it might be called if such already exists.
This is mainly because sometimes there are so many names to things and genres and philosophers even in other fields that it can be hard to remember or keep track of it all or look things up.
People can also use this thread to mention their own ideas and see where they might fit in or who may have said similar things to them.
Finally, one can also name their own philosophies or those of others or re-name existing ones in ways they think and attempt justify as more accurate or efficiently informative.
The philosophy I am looking for is one I have seen before but all the search terms I put into google seem to not come up with anything. It was a philosophy which existed in Islamic lands in the past but emerged again later as well.
It is that information or moments of experience are spontaneously generated by God.
It is so frustrating to type in tons of possibilities for the name of it and coming up with totally unconnected stuff.
Instantalism Initiationism Momentalism I don't know!
It was simply that any sort of information can be generated or deleted in an instant and there is no way to verify the existence of any real past or series of events, only the apparent now which can include anything like memory or history.
Imminentalism.
So this is the best place to ask the researchers here to help out. People should not be discouraged from asking even if they are advanced philosophers or philosophy students but can't find a certain word.
Now to also use the other functions of this thread.
I will list some ideas and then you all can find names, even multiple names of philosophies and philosophers or authors both real and fictional or religious or psychological or complexes or phobias or manias or whatever or whoever at all might fit the bill. Each separate paragraph or sentence can be named or the names or similarities found or mentioned for it with quotes and link sources or whatever helps prove or justify the comparison or naming.
All we know is "stuff" which can be called "experience" or "information" or "experience of information".
We ourselves are only an experience of information.
We can not know if anyone else is experiencing anything at all let alone the way we do, such as with the impression of seeing things like a first person screen or to know that what anyone is seeing is even similar or recognizable if we were to see from their perspective if there is one.
Everything we know can not be credited to us, we passively do and experience like leaves blowing in the wind, we are not responsible or free.
The highest power is Evil and all it does is violence.
The destruction of moments is what makes possible experience or processing or being, there can be no static information or experience, even if one sees only black or white they cannot experience it except through apparent change which can be called creation and destruction since the thoughts which are also experience or information still must be appearing to change or else there can be no experience the moment is simply skipped to the next moment of change which is how non-existence or non-experience or non-information or true death would be necessarily skipled or can never be experienced.
I hate trouble and all trouble stems from whatever at all is ultimately responsible for anything and everything, which can be called my God, so I hate God.
I worship the supreme power for potential benefit and as a reminder of my helpless state.
I am controlled entirely by the supreme power and have nothing of my own, even what I think and do and decide and my thoughts and if they are deemed by me to be good or bad or right or wrong or any feelings or supposed reactions to them are all from and by the supreme power of which I am only a souless transformable puppet moment to moment.
We seek pleasure, especially the most lasting and without consequences of harm or suffering in the short and long term and avoid pain or displeasure in the short and long term, especially the most lasting, seeking paradise and avoiding hell in the most immediate sense as well as all senses.
We hope to follow a strategy which pretends to or tries to make decisions or choices which lead to good seeming results and avoid trouble in this or any potential life or experience.
The supreme power is untamed and untameable Chaos and unconditioned Free Will and creative and destructive ability to do whatever at all it does and is unstoppable and can not be reasoned with as we are just puppets of it anyway.
There is Only One, Alone, there is no Other.
The experience of being us is as is a sheet of information or a shape or combination or certain picture of information which is nothing else and has no relation to anything and is fully visible and experienced wholly entirely by God thus known as the most literally Compassionate or Suffering.
Nothing can not do or create anything but God is not absolute nothing but like nothing in the sense of being no-information, not made of information or experience the way we are but the maker of them.
God is Action and Action can not be known except through apoarent Change or one moment to another one shot or picture to another.
Nothing is really very good and things are mostly pretty bad.
Since everything is baseless our acceptance is only dreamlike and there is nothing acceptable or rational about a flying thing sucking on flowers or the existence of noses or air or planets or stars or anything. All of it is madness since it has no basis and is unconditioned and thus Madness is the power of God.
God is what spontaneously generates and destroys information but can not do this except by existing in some sense in order to be able to do anything thus not being true Nothing though being without information and so like Nothing having no dimensions or space but even thus can not do anything except without the innate Ability to do so or potency or power which can not be limited as any limitation would be instantly reached. Furthermore besides an Ability it would need a Drive or som self motivator to take action and express the ability otherwise it would lay dormant and never roused to doing anything. Yet blind ability and drive are still not enough as it would need the ability to Choose to do or not to do and also what to do and not to do as anything is made of many nots. It can not choose to both do and not do or neither do or not do as it would be void and nothing would be expressed.
All things are imbalanced and creation is the act of imbalancing and making less or more of God or what is inferior and an automatic victim.
All creation is a victim.
We are never safe or in control.
Ignorance is the only possible bliss true knowledge is horror and fear. Only those who are told or do not know think they are in a safe or stable state and can not or would not be harmed even as they are continuously destroyed or changed.
There is no verification for real consistent time and time is a supposed measurement between different moments but is altogether an impression and an idea which can not be experienced or really felt.
All experience is forced upon us and our existence is rape.
There is no better pursuit than the pursuit of nobility and beauty as we deem it. We should do what is best and what spreads what we think is best and most pleasurable in the most lasting seeming ways. Our task should be to beautify our experience wherever and whenever we can and in all interactions.
All that we experience is part of what can be called our Body of Experience (see Mystic Poetry of Kabir and expand searches for all these as much as possible). Everything we experience is unique to us or belongs to us as part of what we are or is us as we are an experience and everything in it is part of that so be good to your self and do good with your self and be kind to the animals and insects and creatures and plants you encounter and gentle towards everything except what should be fought against or harms like diseases or bad ideologies and villainous people and fiends.
We are born into a state of War as Warriors and will fight for as long as we are "made" to in all senses. Even in the sense of our apparent shape or abilities as part of our experience.
We can not refuse or fail. We will do exactly as we are supposed to and can only hope it is not troublesome or tragic.
The dead can be returned to life and the ressurection can be anticipated in all probability given infinite time to hit a possibility, we should try at least to work against the worst possibility of the truth of being judged.
Anything which can be imagined is possible, and can be generated by God.
Not all things are visible or can be grasped directly by the senses and some things can only be known by their effects and other things may remain entirely unknown.
We know everything there is for us to know in a given moment.
There is no secret, everything is made up, the pursuit of knowledge is largely arbitrary, anything can be generated or invented. (See Shroedingers cat, or don't!)
The key to magic is Not Knowing and the Unseen like the edge around a corner and not knowing if there is a door there or not.
Creation is from the Unseen or Ignorance.
A lie is what does not correspond to anything which exists and the truth is said to refer to what does. All truth comes from lies and the Truth which is Stable is Chaos or Instability and thus Irony can be said to be large part of Ultimate Nature or Ultimate Reality. Counterintuitive serming opposites or seeming paradoxes.
God can not die or see through to its end and thus is limited in some senses and is neither capable of absolutely anything and everything nor is omnibenevolent.
We are all undead or the living dead dying moment to moment and having died moment to moment and feed like vampires off what is apoarently living.
We define ourselves often from the Other.
What would I be or want to be if not relating to what I consider out of my control, in an attempt to better control or predict or anticipate it? I am always a weapon, a tool.
I want to be scary because I want to be safe and respected and all to obey me and cooperate with me and submit to my power.
God is an Atheist.
I am from God and ever returning to what is God, which is like Nothing.
God controls me like a remote control vehicle or avatar, but I am information while God is not.
Nothing really makes sense.
There is no reason.
Everything is a lie except a few things.
Any number of answers can be created for questions.
Believing is often folly, disbelief can free the mind if done correctly, since people who have faith in the world and matter and material may be deceived.
There is Nothing to have faith in, Nothing that is Sure.
We know only what we are told and there is Nothing to know besides that. Only Non-Information which is God ans Information which is our experience which is all we are, a viewscreen, flat layer, a shroud which the Ghost waves and bristles.
This is mainly because sometimes there are so many names to things and genres and philosophers even in other fields that it can be hard to remember or keep track of it all or look things up.
People can also use this thread to mention their own ideas and see where they might fit in or who may have said similar things to them.
Finally, one can also name their own philosophies or those of others or re-name existing ones in ways they think and attempt justify as more accurate or efficiently informative.
The philosophy I am looking for is one I have seen before but all the search terms I put into google seem to not come up with anything. It was a philosophy which existed in Islamic lands in the past but emerged again later as well.
It is that information or moments of experience are spontaneously generated by God.
It is so frustrating to type in tons of possibilities for the name of it and coming up with totally unconnected stuff.
Instantalism Initiationism Momentalism I don't know!
It was simply that any sort of information can be generated or deleted in an instant and there is no way to verify the existence of any real past or series of events, only the apparent now which can include anything like memory or history.
Imminentalism.
So this is the best place to ask the researchers here to help out. People should not be discouraged from asking even if they are advanced philosophers or philosophy students but can't find a certain word.
Now to also use the other functions of this thread.
I will list some ideas and then you all can find names, even multiple names of philosophies and philosophers or authors both real and fictional or religious or psychological or complexes or phobias or manias or whatever or whoever at all might fit the bill. Each separate paragraph or sentence can be named or the names or similarities found or mentioned for it with quotes and link sources or whatever helps prove or justify the comparison or naming.
All we know is "stuff" which can be called "experience" or "information" or "experience of information".
We ourselves are only an experience of information.
We can not know if anyone else is experiencing anything at all let alone the way we do, such as with the impression of seeing things like a first person screen or to know that what anyone is seeing is even similar or recognizable if we were to see from their perspective if there is one.
Everything we know can not be credited to us, we passively do and experience like leaves blowing in the wind, we are not responsible or free.
The highest power is Evil and all it does is violence.
The destruction of moments is what makes possible experience or processing or being, there can be no static information or experience, even if one sees only black or white they cannot experience it except through apparent change which can be called creation and destruction since the thoughts which are also experience or information still must be appearing to change or else there can be no experience the moment is simply skipped to the next moment of change which is how non-existence or non-experience or non-information or true death would be necessarily skipled or can never be experienced.
I hate trouble and all trouble stems from whatever at all is ultimately responsible for anything and everything, which can be called my God, so I hate God.
I worship the supreme power for potential benefit and as a reminder of my helpless state.
I am controlled entirely by the supreme power and have nothing of my own, even what I think and do and decide and my thoughts and if they are deemed by me to be good or bad or right or wrong or any feelings or supposed reactions to them are all from and by the supreme power of which I am only a souless transformable puppet moment to moment.
We seek pleasure, especially the most lasting and without consequences of harm or suffering in the short and long term and avoid pain or displeasure in the short and long term, especially the most lasting, seeking paradise and avoiding hell in the most immediate sense as well as all senses.
We hope to follow a strategy which pretends to or tries to make decisions or choices which lead to good seeming results and avoid trouble in this or any potential life or experience.
The supreme power is untamed and untameable Chaos and unconditioned Free Will and creative and destructive ability to do whatever at all it does and is unstoppable and can not be reasoned with as we are just puppets of it anyway.
There is Only One, Alone, there is no Other.
The experience of being us is as is a sheet of information or a shape or combination or certain picture of information which is nothing else and has no relation to anything and is fully visible and experienced wholly entirely by God thus known as the most literally Compassionate or Suffering.
Nothing can not do or create anything but God is not absolute nothing but like nothing in the sense of being no-information, not made of information or experience the way we are but the maker of them.
God is Action and Action can not be known except through apoarent Change or one moment to another one shot or picture to another.
Nothing is really very good and things are mostly pretty bad.
Since everything is baseless our acceptance is only dreamlike and there is nothing acceptable or rational about a flying thing sucking on flowers or the existence of noses or air or planets or stars or anything. All of it is madness since it has no basis and is unconditioned and thus Madness is the power of God.
God is what spontaneously generates and destroys information but can not do this except by existing in some sense in order to be able to do anything thus not being true Nothing though being without information and so like Nothing having no dimensions or space but even thus can not do anything except without the innate Ability to do so or potency or power which can not be limited as any limitation would be instantly reached. Furthermore besides an Ability it would need a Drive or som self motivator to take action and express the ability otherwise it would lay dormant and never roused to doing anything. Yet blind ability and drive are still not enough as it would need the ability to Choose to do or not to do and also what to do and not to do as anything is made of many nots. It can not choose to both do and not do or neither do or not do as it would be void and nothing would be expressed.
All things are imbalanced and creation is the act of imbalancing and making less or more of God or what is inferior and an automatic victim.
All creation is a victim.
We are never safe or in control.
Ignorance is the only possible bliss true knowledge is horror and fear. Only those who are told or do not know think they are in a safe or stable state and can not or would not be harmed even as they are continuously destroyed or changed.
There is no verification for real consistent time and time is a supposed measurement between different moments but is altogether an impression and an idea which can not be experienced or really felt.
All experience is forced upon us and our existence is rape.
There is no better pursuit than the pursuit of nobility and beauty as we deem it. We should do what is best and what spreads what we think is best and most pleasurable in the most lasting seeming ways. Our task should be to beautify our experience wherever and whenever we can and in all interactions.
All that we experience is part of what can be called our Body of Experience (see Mystic Poetry of Kabir and expand searches for all these as much as possible). Everything we experience is unique to us or belongs to us as part of what we are or is us as we are an experience and everything in it is part of that so be good to your self and do good with your self and be kind to the animals and insects and creatures and plants you encounter and gentle towards everything except what should be fought against or harms like diseases or bad ideologies and villainous people and fiends.
We are born into a state of War as Warriors and will fight for as long as we are "made" to in all senses. Even in the sense of our apparent shape or abilities as part of our experience.
We can not refuse or fail. We will do exactly as we are supposed to and can only hope it is not troublesome or tragic.
The dead can be returned to life and the ressurection can be anticipated in all probability given infinite time to hit a possibility, we should try at least to work against the worst possibility of the truth of being judged.
Anything which can be imagined is possible, and can be generated by God.
Not all things are visible or can be grasped directly by the senses and some things can only be known by their effects and other things may remain entirely unknown.
We know everything there is for us to know in a given moment.
There is no secret, everything is made up, the pursuit of knowledge is largely arbitrary, anything can be generated or invented. (See Shroedingers cat, or don't!)
The key to magic is Not Knowing and the Unseen like the edge around a corner and not knowing if there is a door there or not.
Creation is from the Unseen or Ignorance.
A lie is what does not correspond to anything which exists and the truth is said to refer to what does. All truth comes from lies and the Truth which is Stable is Chaos or Instability and thus Irony can be said to be large part of Ultimate Nature or Ultimate Reality. Counterintuitive serming opposites or seeming paradoxes.
God can not die or see through to its end and thus is limited in some senses and is neither capable of absolutely anything and everything nor is omnibenevolent.
We are all undead or the living dead dying moment to moment and having died moment to moment and feed like vampires off what is apoarently living.
We define ourselves often from the Other.
What would I be or want to be if not relating to what I consider out of my control, in an attempt to better control or predict or anticipate it? I am always a weapon, a tool.
I want to be scary because I want to be safe and respected and all to obey me and cooperate with me and submit to my power.
God is an Atheist.
I am from God and ever returning to what is God, which is like Nothing.
God controls me like a remote control vehicle or avatar, but I am information while God is not.
Nothing really makes sense.
There is no reason.
Everything is a lie except a few things.
Any number of answers can be created for questions.
Believing is often folly, disbelief can free the mind if done correctly, since people who have faith in the world and matter and material may be deceived.
There is Nothing to have faith in, Nothing that is Sure.
We know only what we are told and there is Nothing to know besides that. Only Non-Information which is God ans Information which is our experience which is all we are, a viewscreen, flat layer, a shroud which the Ghost waves and bristles.
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Re: Name that Philosophy!
Wow I found it in the most strange and unusual way completely unrelated to this just now.
I was reading about Idolatry on wikipedia and went through numerous links until it came to "supernatural" and the whole process of me finding it seemed supernatural too!
This sort of thing happens lots but its always crazy and amazing seeming. I wasn't looking for it at all, wasn't looking for supernatural either and never expected it to be mentioned there anyway but regardless, please don't look it up that way as you might end up mentioning or knowing other things instead!
I was reading about Idolatry on wikipedia and went through numerous links until it came to "supernatural" and the whole process of me finding it seemed supernatural too!
This sort of thing happens lots but its always crazy and amazing seeming. I wasn't looking for it at all, wasn't looking for supernatural either and never expected it to be mentioned there anyway but regardless, please don't look it up that way as you might end up mentioning or knowing other things instead!
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Re: Name that Philosophy!
I have started a beginners zone where members can create threads that explain specific philosophical concepts, a quiz and guess thread might be a good idea when the forum becomes more busy, but I don't think I could squeeze it in at present as I am trying to read about 5 books!
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I am reading a ton too as always! Which leads me to my next thread! If you ever do find time to casually try to see if any of these statements remind you of anything each you can slowly and casually mention them over time as I would be very interested to see what might come up!
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Tangential discovery on the internet is a common occurance, well it used to be until I became more disciplined.
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Yeah, it seemed a kind of unrelated thing to be in the article for the word supernatural in the first place.
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Yeah, it seemed a kind of unrelated thing to be in the article for the word supernatural in the first place.
Indeed, Idols can be human too.
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I look forward to seeing if you think of the term or find it or know about it based on how I described it above but not through the article of supernatural.
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We define ourselves often from the Other.
This is probably the most interesting to me, especially where feminism is concerned. See my latest thread on Butler.
This is probably the most interesting to me, especially where feminism is concerned. See my latest thread on Butler.
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I thought that thread was great. Looks like just you and I can just carry this forum ourselves lol.