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atreestump
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Faust

Post by atreestump »

Faust is perhaps my favorite play and story. I have uploaded the script to the 'The Tragical Hisory of Docktor Faustus' by Christopher Marlowe and also the Goethe version 'Faust' parts one and two.

I will be reading these texts soon and making threads about them.

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Re: Faust

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Thank you very much. I relate lots and take the character of Mephistopheles quite personally.
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There's something very humane about Mephistopheles, that's why I wanted to read the Goethe version, as Mephistopheles seems to be what Faust is destined to become and he feels compassion towards him.
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Re: Faust

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Totally! It is an extremely important story for those interested in a number of things related to personal growth and healing.
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Interesting take. I am still looking at it as a story of looking beyond for 'more than' without seeing what is right before your eyes here and now.
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Re: Faust

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It is worthwhile to study the etymological origins of the word Mephistopheles and the development of the character historically and the whole pact thing as a literary meme throughout European history and its predecessors. You may even like to write a nice article collating that information.
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Re: Faust

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Faust has many interesting aspects that are philosophical through and through.

The writing of the contract with the devil, with his own blood, is like the ego is a substance 'in the blood' that is spilled onto the page. Desires and drives are spelled out on the page with a time reference too, Faust becomes an abject/ reject and a project by defining his subjectivity in relation to Mephistopheles. Even though Faust has him at his service, Mephistopheles is more free than Faust.


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Re: Faust

Post by kFoyauextlH »

Here is something which can be related which might bring up some interesting points:
The idea is that there is God who puts forth a spirit and a soul and the soul and spirit are driving the man or object or vessel or body. The spirit often relates more to the mind and the soul often relates more to the life of a person, their overall life and so it is considered a passive interpretation as compared to the spirit which is used in language often to refer to the active mind. The soul meaning life which is culminated as corrupt through the wholeness of its activity is then put in hell or punishment as a reflection of that life, since the term relates to the life of a person as a whole, and selling the soul means ones life is dedicated to that spirit or agency of mind and ends up being taken when its culmination or term is complete.
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Re: Faust

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To do the best that one can do.
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Re: Faust

Post by DAWN »

 @"Ontical" 
Well i tried to down load the the docs but can't, sounds interesting thowe.

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