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Faust

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:45 pm
by atreestump
Faust is perhaps my favorite play and story. I have uploaded the script to the 'The Tragical Hisory of Docktor Faustus' by Christopher Marlowe and also the Goethe version 'Faust' parts one and two.

I will be reading these texts soon and making threads about them.


Re: Faust

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:12 pm
by kFoyauextlH
Thank you very much. I relate lots and take the character of Mephistopheles quite personally.

Re: Faust

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:25 pm
by atreestump
There's something very humane about Mephistopheles, that's why I wanted to read the Goethe version, as Mephistopheles seems to be what Faust is destined to become and he feels compassion towards him.

Re: Faust

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:42 pm
by kFoyauextlH
Totally! It is an extremely important story for those interested in a number of things related to personal growth and healing.

Re: Faust

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:43 pm
by Socrates
Interesting take. I am still looking at it as a story of looking beyond for 'more than' without seeing what is right before your eyes here and now.

Re: Faust

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:31 am
by kFoyauextlH
It is worthwhile to study the etymological origins of the word Mephistopheles and the development of the character historically and the whole pact thing as a literary meme throughout European history and its predecessors. You may even like to write a nice article collating that information.

Re: Faust

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:41 am
by atreestump
Faust has many interesting aspects that are philosophical through and through.

The writing of the contract with the devil, with his own blood, is like the ego is a substance 'in the blood' that is spilled onto the page. Desires and drives are spelled out on the page with a time reference too, Faust becomes an abject/ reject and a project by defining his subjectivity in relation to Mephistopheles. Even though Faust has him at his service, Mephistopheles is more free than Faust.


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Re: Faust

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:40 pm
by kFoyauextlH
Here is something which can be related which might bring up some interesting points:
The idea is that there is God who puts forth a spirit and a soul and the soul and spirit are driving the man or object or vessel or body. The spirit often relates more to the mind and the soul often relates more to the life of a person, their overall life and so it is considered a passive interpretation as compared to the spirit which is used in language often to refer to the active mind. The soul meaning life which is culminated as corrupt through the wholeness of its activity is then put in hell or punishment as a reflection of that life, since the term relates to the life of a person as a whole, and selling the soul means ones life is dedicated to that spirit or agency of mind and ends up being taken when its culmination or term is complete.

Re: Faust

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:45 pm
by atreestump
To do the best that one can do.

Re: Faust

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:51 am
by DAWN
 @"Ontical" 
Well i tried to down load the the docs but can't, sounds interesting thowe.

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