What is Truth? | Discussion

[atreestump]

As philosophy is all about the inquiry of what is true and meaningful, virtuous and beautiful, I thought we could start a few threads asking these simple questions, starting with Truth.

What is truth to you? Is there absolute truth? Is truth just something we believe is there, but isn't, kind of like the arguments for free will? It's a necessary illusion to get out of bed in the morning, but 'Truth' is a necessary preposition that we search for in order to begin inquiry. Is Truth an outdated concept, a hang up from religion?

[kFoyauextlH]

The reality is the truth and it is made of lies (things that were not and will not be, the transient), the only Truth is Truth itself, the Ultimate Reality, which is stable instability, constrained freedom, timeless temporality, or paradox or seeming contradictions combined such as What is like Nothing but is Not Nothing generating everything and destroying it from no place and everything as actually like nothing in another sense.

This can all be simplified to God or Allah being the single word answer, or practically any word or sound, since what is Real is all there is, there is no such thing as really unreal. People get mixed up with distinguishing words, but Meaning itself is always present no matter what they say or think, Meaning Itself is what we actively see and experience.

[atreestump]

People get mixed up with distinguishing words, but Meaning itself is always present no matter what they say or think, Meaning Itself is what we actively see and experience.


Do you mean that meaning is there before interpretation?

[kFoyauextlH]

I wrote about this just now in another thread.

What is experienced has no existence as is prior to being experienced, when it is experienced it is part of a full package, it isn't that there is an object which is then interpreted, but an experience including what one calls an object and one calls an interpretation which is all part of a frame of information altogether.

​​​​The meaning, the affect, the object, are all together if they are experienced as such, and none can dispute the matter as they have no access to it or any part of it at all.

For your eyes only.

[thetrizzard]

Each moment, just as it is, is the sudden manifestation of absolute truth.

[kFoyauextlH]

Very nice. Now the question arises if we really believe that and how we really believe that and how we might not really believe that.

​​​​​​For me the truth is in between the moment somewhere, that its in the doubt, much more than it is in the features or the images or the blackness when the eyes are shut. Even beyond the force of things, in that flash of disbelief.

[Rubsy]

Each moment, just as it is, is the sudden manifestation of absolute truth.


My perceptions are all true as they are in the moment even if they are contrary to anothers perception ?

[thetrizzard]

Absolute Truth and Relative Truth are two sides of the same moment

[atreestump]

Realism and relativism are both wrong in trying to determine which is true and the other wrong.

[kFoyauextlH]

Yeah. I hope no one thinks I mentioned either of those really.