The moment of awakening
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The moment of awakening
To reach truth is not to accumulate knowledge, but to awaken to the heart of reality. Reality reveals itself complete and whole at the moment of awakening. Nothing is added, or lost.
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Tell me more on this please if possible! I'd love to see it discussed at length and how to approach and achieve this!
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This is to say that what we describe as our experience of an object as a subject, you are no longer 'in' it; others can re-create certain sensations based on experiences they might have had, but that is all.
No distinction between subject and object, no evaluation, no discrimination was there, it was non-discriminative wisdom - which introduces us to the heart of reality.
No distinction between subject and object, no evaluation, no discrimination was there, it was non-discriminative wisdom - which introduces us to the heart of reality.
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"More please" - Oliver Twist
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Something I've retained that you remind me of...
"There are three steps between man and God: The first is belief, it is what a man thinks perhaps is true. The second is faith, it is what a man knows to be true and in this belief is lost. The third step is fruition, it is man and truth as one. So that there is no longer a man or the truth but a fluency of life unto life and in this even faith is lost. "
"There are three steps between man and God: The first is belief, it is what a man thinks perhaps is true. The second is faith, it is what a man knows to be true and in this belief is lost. The third step is fruition, it is man and truth as one. So that there is no longer a man or the truth but a fluency of life unto life and in this even faith is lost. "
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Very interesting and beautiful! I wouldn't mind more on that!
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Don't seek from others,
Or you'll be estranged from yourself.
I now go on alone -
Everywhere I encounter It.
It now is me, I now am not It.
One must understand in this way
To merge with being as is.
In my daily life there are no other chores than
Those that happen to fall into my hands.
Nothing I choose, nothing reject.
Nowhere is there ado, nowhere a slip.
I have no other emblems of my glory than
The mountains and hills without a spot of dust.
My magical power and spiritual exercise consists in
Carrying water and gathering firewood.
Before I had studied Zen, I saw mountains as mountains, and waters as waters. When I arrived at a more intimate knowledge, I came to the point where I saw that mountains are not mountains, and waters are not waters. But now that I have got its very substance I am at rest. For it's just that I see mountains once again as mountains, and waters once again as waters.
from "Zen Sayings & Poems"
Or you'll be estranged from yourself.
I now go on alone -
Everywhere I encounter It.
It now is me, I now am not It.
One must understand in this way
To merge with being as is.
In my daily life there are no other chores than
Those that happen to fall into my hands.
Nothing I choose, nothing reject.
Nowhere is there ado, nowhere a slip.
I have no other emblems of my glory than
The mountains and hills without a spot of dust.
My magical power and spiritual exercise consists in
Carrying water and gathering firewood.
Before I had studied Zen, I saw mountains as mountains, and waters as waters. When I arrived at a more intimate knowledge, I came to the point where I saw that mountains are not mountains, and waters are not waters. But now that I have got its very substance I am at rest. For it's just that I see mountains once again as mountains, and waters once again as waters.
from "Zen Sayings & Poems"
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That's why you are winning MOTM so far!
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To reach truth is not to accumulate knowledge, but to awaken to the heart of reality. Reality reveals itself complete and whole at the moment of awakening. Nothing is added, or lost.
Great post. I often try to retrace the moment of my true awakening to reality and struggle to find a way to do the same for others. I believe to "...awaken to the heart of reality," is the beginning of choosing self-knowledge over ignorance. I also believe everything struggles to find balance and when people find the perfect balance of bliss/sorrow, this is the "moment of awakening." Like how life is created.
Through my struggle to help others "awake" I found that one needs to transfer complete understanding of reality and it needs to be genuinely expressed/received. Something like genuine trust between mentor to disciple to reshape beliefs, motivators, needs, emotions, models, beliefs, preferences, and goals.
It's the beginning to no end as the pursuit of self-knowledge is never ending.
A curse and a blessing to freely decipher our perceptions of the metaphysical world to the physical world.
A perfect contradiction of sorts.