Bane: Isolate; You never have to choose! All Human Achievement is yours!

[kFoyauextlH]

Temple Of Bane (TO Ba)

Bane: Ideal(s1) Ideali(s2)m (S3)ub(s4)tantial(s5) (S6)ub(s7)tantiali(s8)m I(s9)olate

People are often made to feel that they have to choose, that only some things belong to them or can be used by them, or that some cultures are just so totally alien that their accomplishments are beyond access.

So they make choices and selections and these they base perhaps on their heritage or selective interests which they find somewhat exclusive and incompatible with other things.

All human accomplishment is at your service, and humans have been working for centuries to produce copious amounts of thought and expression, much of which you can take and use in multiple ways, you don't have to choose.

Christianity is yours, Science, Atheism, Chinese Medicine, All things Japanese, Mexican Culture, Islamic History, Magic, Persian Religion, Africa and all the continents and everything in them and done with and by them.

The Orthodox Church, the Shias of Iran, the Native American and African secret groups, The Heaven andvEarth societies, the Satanists. All their work is human work and yours. Take it as yours. Don't neglect your human heritage, the world is built on it, and this is your world, not just some corner of it because of your skin or circumstances.

They can say what they want, in order to limit themselves with their exclusions, but I can be a Nazi, a Jew, and anythingbelse, all at once. The work they did, the things they wrote, all part of one big collection of human achievement and thought. All the Philosophers, one never has to choose, take whatever yoy can for your benefit from anything and don't even be shy about it. Flaunt Islam while beingba Buddhist Christian Luciferian Egyptian Neo-Pagan. Just because you were born somewhere doesn't mean you aren't a human, and that human achievements are locked for those born in thevsame places. German stuff is only for Germans born in Germany? Nein!

Seize the whole world. What a relief it is, finally, not having to choose.

The Qur'an, my book, says that the wise listen to everything, and take what is best from it all.

The Bible, my book, and the Rig Veda, the Avesta, the Granth, they all say things, the music videos, the myths, and mankind has been building so much for all to use, a sacrifice you shouls repay by using it and not wasting it. The old Native is your Father no matter where you were born, what advicevwas good is still good, or is better now, based on how you use all the tools of the past. Old swords can still cut, or the same techniques can be used to build them.

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Take what resonates for you.

[kFoyauextlH]

What resonates for you? I may write soon on that as well.

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I was summing up what this thread was about.

[kFoyauextlH]

Oh, but I wanted to know what sorts of things resonate for you? I was asking you, like if anything comes to mind. Like some people like Chinese Taoist stuff or Chinese Communist stuff or whatever specific things, what resonates with you? I will make a thread for it. Please list all that you can think of which resonates with you, sometimes its big muscular vikings of the imagination, sometimes its monsters or the military or Nazis.

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Post structuralism mainly, I also enjoy anything that offers perspective on British history, the formation of America, history of philosophy, anarchism. I don't know really what specifically resonates, I have to be confronted with content prior to selecting it, but I recall this approach from the new age and it pretty much leads to confirmation bias and credulity if no other critical tools are available.

[kFoyauextlH]

I agree. So one of the ideas that resonates with me for example is the idea of Hellfire Clubs and Sons of Liberty type organizations and I can go into a whole lot of detail of the aesthetic and vibe and feelings and images involved which can be really inspiring, and secret societies from those eras and all kinds of linked chains of ideas. It is those sorts of things I am wondering about. Another one for me is Elizabethan stuff focused on the courtly poetics, magic, political designs and intrigues of that time and language slang and superstitions and culture. Big resonance, huge on all of these and there are many more, which is why I made a thread to list those if I have time. Can you tell me all about Post-Structuralism and what specifically stimulates you about it? Also any of these thought or theme boxes like I mentioned.

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Well the main thinker I find most interesting is Friedrich Nietzsche and both structuralism and post-structuralism are the most advanced versions of his thought. 

If I had to summarise, it is an anti-systematic form of inquiry, but it didn't start off as philosophy, it started out of linguistics, semiotics, anthropology, psychoanalysis and other cultural studies. 

Structuralism basically looks at the structure of language, how it can only be studied in negative terms, what a sign is not, is also a part of its definition. 

Post-structuralism has a more 'open ended' view of language and is more about contingency, unpredictable appearances. 

So when structuralism found the structure of language, Althusser said that culture is structured like a language and Lacan said the Unconscious is structured like a language and so on.

So Nietzsche begins looking at language as something that co-appeared with consciousness in humans. 

The consequences of structuralism and especially post-structuralism is a radically different view of concepts as different from words (signs) and a de-centering of privileged points of view from Humanism, which still has many hang ups from religion.

Post-structuralism has offered different views on things we think are just 'given' and it questions presuppositions mainly.

There's so much more, too much to say here, which is why it takes time to introduce it to people on the forum, one bit at a time.

[kFoyauextlH]

Well that is my exact area of study and interest as well!

I wrote this story when someone mentioned Tulpas:
Test them. There is no unity in thought. So each person is "calling a different name". Three to six to nine people can be standing in a room looking at a diamond. There are as many diamonds in that room as there are people, and not One in any sense, even in the sense that the diamond they all agree among one another is there, is not actually mutually apprehensible to any of them. They can not really grasp it, nor can they steal it from the others.

So when they speak of a "joint thought" there is nothing which they are able to reach, as they can not even reach each other. They are lost in Maya, they are buying what should never be sold, since it is fraudulent and deceptive.

Now can there be for one an appearance that such and such is the cause and such and such is the generation? Yes, there can be many appearances, so in that sense, it can absolutely be seen that "six, six I say I say, six monks sat around and from it formed a mound, lifting up the robes set between them", this report can only come from one monk, and all the monks who report it are one, and the monk who hears it and wonders "is it so?" should know in the sane breathe that it can be and in a gasp, that it is not so.

When the monks gather to show the monk, and he beholds it in his vision, they say "now do you see? Is what we say not true?" the monk is split into two.

Is it so or is it not so. This splits into four, this is how it is so, this is how it is not so, this is how it can not be so, this is how it is always so.

In any case, if wise, he replies like a foolish person saying "I really don't think what you demonstrated is the samevas what you say"

The Abbot then comes, and may say, what did you witness?

The monk replies if honest, I witnessed robes lifting up.

"Indeed", says the Abbot, "and what was the cause of such occurring? Was it not these monks who created a Tulpa which lifted it up before your vary own eyes?"

"How can a Tulpa lift a robe, when these monks can not lift their own robes?"

"How do they not lift their own robes, young monk, you see it."

"Indeed, I see the robes upon them, I see them appear to move."

"What then is the cause of this? Are they not responsible?"

"My vision stands in the way of the cause."

"Do you believe there is something behind it?"

"Something can always be apprehended, and apprehension is the child of ignorance, born of grasping."

"Do you understand your words?"

"As best as I am able."

"Do I understand your words?"

"Your substance is not apprehensible to me."

"If you look behind apprehension, what will you see?"

"I will not see."

"What then is your answer regarding the responsible causation for what you witnessed?"

"Indra's net Apprehends All Falsehood, only the Truth escapes it."

"What is the Truth regarding this event?"

"The Truth is that I have seen it, the cause of which can not be attributed to the monks if one is sure."

"Why is that so?"

"Because they could not confirm each other and I could not confirm them."

"Is anything confirmed?"

"Yes, I assure you, that I have experienced this sight."

"Do you not know its cause?"

"Its cause is known to me."

"What then is the cause?"

"The cause is the same cause as any sight or phenomenon."

"Which is?"

"All apprehension stems from ignorance, all knowledge is available in emptiness."

"Why is that so?"

"Ignorance is apprehension, while one can not know what they see, but in emptiness one makes available room for the truth."

"What is the truth?"

"The truth is the reality, which is not apprehension, not ignorance, and what emptiness reveals."

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The below may be able to be usefully connected to what appears in the above:

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"Yes, I assure you, that I have experienced this sight."

"Do you not know its cause?"

"Its cause is known to me."

"What then is the cause?"

"The cause is the same cause as any sight or phenomenon."

"Which is?"

"All apprehension stems from ignorance, all knowledge is available in emptiness."

"Why is that so?"

"Ignorance is apprehension, while one can not know what they see, but in emptiness one makes available room for the truth."

"What is the truth?"

"The truth is the reality, which is not apprehension, not ignorance, and what emptiness reveals."
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Probably not a good time to bring up that I may be racist, in at least some way?



Probably not in the way of thinking any division of the human race is particularly better than any other, but what good does it do me to ignore how disturbing I found that person's appearance, it was repulsive to me in several ways, and I even have doubts about a great many people who I think aren't as pure as they should be mentally or aware enough who may end up reproducing in these types of interactions. So I do believe that people can be attracted to and love and reproduce with other ethnicities and people who look very different from themselves, but I would hate the taint of weird, modern prejudices, tropes, and bias, both positive and negative, involved in any romance or with people's parents or coming through also into their interaction with children.

I hate racism, and I also hate dishonesty, and sometimes certain frankness can appear to be racist when it isn't or shouldn't be, other times it may be but might still be impacting in such a way that it should not be disregarded.

Anyway, for me, the bottom line regarding that guy is he looked hideous and disgusting to me, down to his skin tone as it appeared on camera, whereas I would not have likely minded a person who might have appeared better to me by being less ethnically mixed, so then whatever ended up showing up, likely due to the mixing, would not have come into play to make for what disgusted me, but he could also fare better by not being so close to the camera and not doing all the other things that have deformed him due to complexes, like feeling the need to build muscles like that.



He looks a lot better to me in a lot of these other videos, so maybe it was just the video. "Get a grip!"

For me it is useful and important not to shame immediately or hide things from myself by to bring them into the light to explore and examine them, also to figure out what may be going on.

Also, "racist" often brings to mind "white supremacy", but I'm not fond of "white" anything necessarily, so that meaning also confuses people and distracts them from all the varieties of things that could also be called "racist".

I also don't believe that people who deny it are free from it, and that certain things have to be suspicious, while others may not be. In real life, I think that I am in many ways less racist than others, or not racist in the same way as others, but that is also due to the way that I view and break down visual information and appearances. For example, I suspect a lot of baggage involved with some caucasian people fetishizing an East Asian girl, where I can imagine myself easily disregarding such tropes and baggage if I liked the appearance of an East Asian female, and that I would be talking to them as much more like my own self or family than I would suspect many caucasians of even being capable of with what I have seen and heard from so many. This junk is being brought up because it is linked to the overall theme of this thread, but "racism" as a pejorative or a social ill is the furthest aspect. My threads will also be mirroring others or have connections to others, so the symbol for this one is the symbol of Bane, which is a black hand. So then the Slaanesh thread is related through the idea of desire and acquisition, and the Lolth thread is connected and was originally going to be the Bane thread and was full of ethnicity related tirades for a specific reason, but I removed them due to fearing trouble and not being understood or the deeper themes coming through clearly enough. The Khaine thread is also related, and that one deals with opposites. The Khaine thread connects to the Bhaal thread, and the Slaanesh thread connects to the Malar thread, but they don't all connect to each and every other thread, so they have certain overlapping things that show up but then other connections to other things, so it is like a big network of ideas.



These songs are here because of typing in "grasp" and the ideas connected to that and "isolation" and "isolating" things, and what that does. All my larger threads, lengthier posts, and major theme collections, masked perhaps by a lot of silliness if taken just at face value or in a very superficial way, are or can be pretty deep and are meant to try to trigger, at least for me but hopefully for others, the opening of various doors to explore things about oneself and the world which are often not very clearly or openly brought up, so the "occult".

I really didn't like when I read recently in a big email chain that someone casted doubt on me and my writing, and then a person started to also doubt everything about me, and it just annoyed me like they think I must be like them or anyone else? Like I just talk crap like they all seem to? I am not like almost anyone I've seen writing online and none of this stuff I've been writing for years is actually as frivolous and superficial as it may appear, but how can I ever make people know?

That is why I was so grateful for the Parrhesia posts which pointed out to people that there can be something a little deeper to what I am bringing up and connecting, which even A.I. could potentially bring to light through certain prompts if applied to what I discuss, but which especially would require aor be most beneficial to someone thinking in a certain way, isolating terms brought up and seeing their connections and all the ideas they bring up, in as many ways in which they might be used and how they can impact what they are around in the overall writing typed and collected. So there might be a slight learning curve to bring these typically subconscious processes more to the conscious and forefront of the thinking while processing my writing in particular. I apply such a technique to all that I read or view, even visual things and music, but I don't believe or expect that the people putting those things together have done so deliberately in most cases and probably are safe to assume that they are much more surface level.

So I listen through the songs, I read through the writing, and only if it hits enough points to get it to be useful enough and triggering enough for what I'm hoping to get going in my own thinking and maybe others, do I approve of it to put it up or find it worth saving as part of a collection.

This song is SO cringe on so many levels, and people are gobbling it up like there seems to be a lot of people willing to gobble just about everything:



Holy sh*t, this guy may be the MASTER of cringe:





Finally, my kind:



Reminiscent of: